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From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
To: "Saleem, Shiraz" <shiraz.saleem@intel.com>
Cc: Gal Pressman <galpress@amazon.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
	Adit Ranadive <aditr@vmware.com>,
	Ariel Elior <aelior@marvell.com>,
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	Christian Benvenuti <benve@cisco.com>,
	"Dalessandro, Dennis" <dennis.dalessandro@intel.com>,
	Devesh Sharma <devesh.sharma@broadcom.com>,
	"Latif, Faisal" <faisal.latif@intel.com>,
	Lijun Ou <oulijun@huawei.com>,
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	Sriharsha Basavapatna <sriharsha.basavapatna@broadcom.com>,
	VMware PV-Drivers <pv-drivers@vmware.com>,
	Weihang Li <liweihang@huawei.com>,
	"Wei Hu(Xavier)" <huwei87@hisilicon.com>,
	Yishai Hadas <yishaih@nvidia.com>,
	Zhu Yanjun <yanjunz@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH rdma-next 01/10] RDMA: Restore ability to fail on PD deallocate
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2020 09:34:11 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200826063411.GF1362631@unreal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9DD61F30A802C4429A01CA4200E302A70106634FB5@fmsmsx124.amr.corp.intel.com>

On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 12:49:03AM +0000, Saleem, Shiraz wrote:
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH rdma-next 01/10] RDMA: Restore ability to fail on PD
> > deallocate
> >
> > On 25/08/2020 16:44, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 04:32:57PM +0300, Gal Pressman wrote:
> > >>> For uverbs it will go into an infinite loop in
> > >>> uverbs_destroy_ufile_hw() if destroy doesn't eventually succeed.
> > >>
> > >> The code breaks the loop in such cases, why infinite loop?
> > >
> > > Oh, that is a bug, it should WARN_ON when that happens, because the
> > > driver has triggered a permanent memory leak.
> >
> > Well, a WARN_ON won't do much good if you're stuck in an infinite loop :), the
> > break is definitely needed there.
> >
> > >>> For kernel it will trigger WARN_ON's and then a permanent memory leak.
> > >>>
> > >>>> I agree that drivers shouldn't fail destroy commands, but you
> > >>>> know.. bugs/errors happen (especially when dealing with hardware),
> > >>>> and we have a way to propagate them, why do it for only some of the
> > drivers?
> > >>>
> > >>> There is no way to propogate them.
> > >>>
> > >>> All destroy must eventually succeed.
> > >>
> > >> There is no way to propagate them on process cleanup, but the destroy
> > >> verbs have a return code all the way back to libibverbs, which we can
> > >> use for error propagation.
> > >
> > > It is sort of OK for a driver to fail during RDMA_REMOVE_DESTROY.
> > >
> > > All other reason codes must eventually succeed.
> > >
> > >> The cleanup flow can either ignore the return value, or we can add
> > >> another parameter that explicitly means the call shouldn't fail and
> > >> all allocated memory/state should be freed.
> > >
> > > I don't really see the value to return the error code to userspace, it
> > > would require churning all the drivers and all the destroy functions
> > > to pass the existing reason in.
> > >
> > > Since all the details of the FW failure reason are lost to some EINVAL
> > > (or already logged to dmesg) I don't see much point.
> >
> > Right, as always, the error code would probably not contain much information, but
> > there's a big difference between returning error code X/Y vs returning success
> > instead of an error. To me that just feels wrong, at least in cases where we can
> > prevent that.
> >
>
> The API is quite confusing now. If drivers are not expected to fail the destroy
> and there is no way to propagate the device failures, then the return type should be a void.
>
> Do we really want to have mixed/ambiguous definition of the API to support the quirks of one type of device?

This is in-kernel API and it can be imperfect, because we are not
bounded to not-break-userspace rule.

I don't like the current situation either, just don't know how to
solve it differently.

Thanks

>
> Shiraz
>

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-26  6:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-24 10:32 [PATCH rdma-next 00/10] Restore failure of destroy commands Leon Romanovsky
2020-08-24 10:32 ` [PATCH rdma-next 01/10] RDMA: Restore ability to fail on PD deallocate Leon Romanovsky
2020-08-25  8:13   ` Gal Pressman
2020-08-25  8:38     ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-08-25 11:52     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-25 12:12       ` Gal Pressman
2020-08-25 12:34         ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-08-25 13:07         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-25 13:32           ` Gal Pressman
2020-08-25 13:44             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-25 13:50               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-25 14:04               ` Gal Pressman
2020-08-25 14:32                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-26  0:49                 ` Saleem, Shiraz
2020-08-26  6:34                   ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
2020-08-26 11:40                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-27  2:06                     ` Saleem, Shiraz
2020-08-27  6:56                       ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-08-27 23:30                         ` Saleem, Shiraz
2020-08-27 12:13                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-27 23:29                         ` Saleem, Shiraz
2020-08-28 11:25                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-08-24 10:32 ` [PATCH rdma-next 02/10] RDMA: Restore ability to fail on AH destroy Leon Romanovsky
2020-08-25  8:13   ` Gal Pressman
2020-08-25  8:32     ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-08-24 10:32 ` [PATCH rdma-next 03/10] RDMA/mlx5: Issue FW command to destroy SRQ on reentry Leon Romanovsky
2020-08-24 10:32 ` [PATCH rdma-next 04/10] RDMA/mlx5: Fix potential race between destroy and CQE poll Leon Romanovsky
2020-08-24 10:32 ` [PATCH rdma-next 05/10] RDMA: Restore ability to fail on SRQ destroy Leon Romanovsky
2020-08-24 10:32 ` [PATCH rdma-next 06/10] RDMA/core: Delete function indirection for alloc/free kernel CQ Leon Romanovsky
2020-08-24 10:32 ` [PATCH rdma-next 07/10] RDMA: Allow fail of destroy CQ Leon Romanovsky
2020-08-24 10:32 ` [PATCH rdma-next 08/10] RDMA: Change XRCD destroy return value Leon Romanovsky
2020-08-24 10:32 ` [PATCH rdma-next 09/10] RDMA: Restore ability to return error for destroy WQ Leon Romanovsky
2020-08-24 10:32 ` [PATCH rdma-next 10/10] RDMA: Make counters destroy symmetrical Leon Romanovsky

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