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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
Cc: Honggang Li <honli@redhat.com>, Itay Aveksis <itayav@nvidia.com>,
	RDMA mailing list <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alaa Hleihel <alaa@nvidia.com>,
	Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: rdma-core spec weird behavior on Fedora
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 14:18:58 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210208181858.GI4247@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210208155911.GG20265@unreal>

On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 05:59:11PM +0200, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 11:35:31AM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 04:31:00PM +0200, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 10:08:24AM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 03:31:37PM +0200, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 09:21:15AM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 03:10:53PM +0200, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 08:59:00AM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 07, 2021 at 10:06:49AM +0200, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi Honggang,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Your commit b02de521022a ("redhat: Remove base package dependency from all sub-packages")
> > > > > > > > > removes protection from rdma-core when user performs "dnf autoremove".
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Before your patch, systemd was dependent on libibverbs and latter
> > > > > > > > > required rdma-core. After your patch, the last link is lost and
> > > > > > > > > rdma-core marked as orphaned package.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Any attempt to install rdma-core as standalone package will have the
> > > > > > > > > following errors, due to the library dependency of udevadm.
> > > > > > > > > [leonro@c rdma-core]$ ldd /sbin/udevadm | grep verbs
> > > > > > > > > 	libibverbs.so.1 => not found
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > well that makes no sense, since when is udevadm connected to
> > > > > > > > libibverbs?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > $ ldd `which udevadm`
> > > > > > > > 	linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffcc09ef000)
> > > > > > > > 	libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007f394bec3000)
> > > > > > > > 	libkmod.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkmod.so.2 (0x00007f394bea8000)
> > > > > > > > 	libacl.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libacl.so.1 (0x00007f394be9d000)
> > > > > > > > 	libblkid.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libblkid.so.1 (0x00007f394be46000)
> > > > > > > > 	libselinux.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libselinux.so.1 (0x00007f394be1b000)
> > > > > > > > 	libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007f394bdf8000)
> > > > > > > > 	/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f394c1b6000)
> > > > > > > > 	liblzma.so.5 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/liblzma.so.5 (0x00007f394bdcd000)
> > > > > > > > 	libcrypto.so.1.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypto.so.1.1 (0x00007f394baf7000)
> > > > > > > > 	libpcre2-8.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcre2-8.so.0 (0x00007f394ba67000)
> > > > > > > > 	libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x00007f394ba61000)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is from my laptop and it is connected:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, that is crazy, udevadm uses libpcap on Fedora which is linked to verbs
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But it still doesn't make sense, how did you get a in a situation
> > > > > > where this is no libibverbs installed even though there should be
> > > > > > dependencies from udevadm preventing that?
> > > > >
> > > > > It was part of my experiments and it is not the issue which we need to solve.
> > > > >
> > > > > Our two problems are that "dnf autoremove" removes rdma-core and you can't
> > > > > install it separately after Honggang's patch.
> > > >
> > > > why not? libibverbs should not be removed by autoremoved?
> > >
> > > During installation of rdma-core, DNF throws errors if libibverbs
> > > doesn't exist, which was in my case when I wanted to reinstall rdma-core
> > > to something new.
> >
> > dnf shouldn't let you remove libibvebs, so how did it get removed?
> 
> I built rdma-core RPM with latest code, issued "dnf install rdma-core
> ...", which passed with error and left system with "unknown" library.

Hum.

In DEB land if a post install script called some other program, like
udevadm, then it would have to pre-depend on that program so it could
be fully ready to run. Pre-depending would ensure that libibverbs was
swapped out somewhat atomically and the system wouldn't try to
configure rdma-core when libibverbs was not installed during a
transaction to change things around.

Sounds like some dnf expert should take a look at what is going on
here

But also, I don't think Fedora should have libverbs as an mandatory
package in every system for whateve udev is doing with libcap,
something really weird is going on that udev needs pcap

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-08 18:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-07  8:06 rdma-core spec weird behavior on Fedora Leon Romanovsky
2021-02-08 12:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-02-08 13:10   ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-02-08 13:15     ` Alaa Hleihel
2021-02-08 13:26       ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-02-08 13:21     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-02-08 13:31       ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-02-08 14:08         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-02-08 14:31           ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-02-08 15:35             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-02-08 15:59               ` Leon Romanovsky
2021-02-08 18:18                 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2021-02-10 11:54 ` Leon Romanovsky

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