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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Gal Pressman <galpress@amazon.com>
Cc: RDMA mailing list <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ibv_req_notify_cq clarification
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2021 09:46:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210222134642.GG2643399@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51a8fa8c-7529-9ef9-bb52-eccaaef3a666@amazon.com>

On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 11:25:02AM +0200, Gal Pressman wrote:
> On 18/02/2021 18:23, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 05:52:16PM +0200, Gal Pressman wrote:
> >> On 18/02/2021 14:53, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 11:13:43AM +0200, Gal Pressman wrote:
> >>>> I'm a bit confused about the meaning of the ibv_req_notify_cq() verb:
> >>>> "Upon the addition of a new CQ entry (CQE) to cq, a completion event will be
> >>>> added to the completion channel associated with the CQ."
> >>>>
> >>>> What is considered a new CQE in this case?
> >>>> The next CQE from the user's perspective, i.e. any new CQE that wasn't consumed
> >>>> by the user's poll cq?
> >>>> Or any new CQE from the device's perspective?
> >>>
> >>> new CQE from the device perspective.
> >>>
> >>>> For example, if at the time of ibv_req_notify_cq() call the CQ has received 100
> >>>> completions, but the user hasn't polled his CQ yet, when should he be notified?
> >>>> On the 101 completion or immediately (since there are completions waiting on the
> >>>> CQ)?
> >>>
> >>> 101 completion
> >>>
> >>> It is only meaningful to call it when the CQ is empty.
> >>
> >> Thanks, so there's an inherent race between the user's CQ poll and the next arm?
> > 
> > I think the specs or man pages talk about this, the application has to
> > observe empty, do arm, then poll again then sleep on the cq if empty.
> > 
> >> Do you know what's the purpose of the consumer index in the arm doorbell that's
> >> implemented by many providers?
> > 
> > The consumer index is needed by HW to prevent CQ overflow, presumably
> > the drivers push to reduce the cases where the HW has to read it from
> > PCI
> 
> Thanks, that makes sense.
> 
> I found the following sentence in CX PRM:
> "If new CQEs are posted to the CQ after the reporting of a completion event and
> these CQEs are not yet consumed, then an event will be generated immediately
> after the request for notification is executed."
> 
> Doesn't that contradict the expected behavior?

I read it as confirming it?

Only *new* CQEs trigger an event, and new CQE's always trigger an
event regardless of the full/empty state of the queue.

This paragraph is an obtuse way of warning of the race I described.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-22 13:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-18  9:13 ibv_req_notify_cq clarification Gal Pressman
2021-02-18 12:38 ` Bernard Metzler
2021-02-18 12:47   ` Gal Pressman
2021-02-18 13:59     ` Bernard Metzler
2021-02-18 12:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-02-18 15:52   ` Gal Pressman
2021-02-18 16:23     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-02-18 18:47       ` Bernard Metzler
2021-02-18 22:22       ` Tom Talpey
2021-02-18 22:51         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-02-18 23:07           ` Tom Talpey
2021-02-19  0:45             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-02-19 14:31               ` Tom Talpey
2021-02-19 14:42                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-02-21  9:25       ` Gal Pressman
2021-02-22 13:46         ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2021-02-22 15:36           ` Gal Pressman
2021-02-22 15:55             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-02-22 19:24               ` Gal Pressman
2021-02-22 19:37                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-02-23 12:18                   ` Gal Pressman
2021-02-23 12:38                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-02-22 22:41                 ` Hefty, Sean
2021-02-23 12:23                   ` Gal Pressman
2021-02-23 20:48                     ` Hefty, Sean
2021-02-22 18:38             ` Hefty, Sean
2021-02-22 19:26               ` Gal Pressman

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