From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>
Cc: "lizhijian@fujitsu.com" <lizhijian@fujitsu.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH rdma-next 08/10] RDMA/rxe: Implement flush execution in responder side
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2022 20:35:25 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220106003525.GT6467@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17122432-1d05-7a88-5d06-840cd69e57e9@talpey.com>
On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 09:32:06PM -0500, Tom Talpey wrote:
> The global visibility is oriented toward supporting distributed
> shared memory workloads, or publish/subscribe on high scale systems.
> It's mainly about ensuring that all devices and CPUs see the data,
> something ordinary RDMA Write does not guarantee. This often means
> flushing write pipelines, possibly followed by invalidating caches.
Isn't that what that new ATOMIC_WRITE does? Why do I need to flush if
ATOMIC WRITE was specified as a release? All I need to do is acquire
on the ATOMIC_WRITE site and I'm good?
So what does FLUSH do here, and how does a CPU 'acquire' against this
kind of flush? The flush doesn't imply any ordering right, so how is
it useful on its own?
The write to persistance aspect I understand, but this notion of
global viability seems peculiar.
> Well, higher level wrappers may signal errors, for example if they're
> not available or unreliable, and you will need to handle them. Also,
> they may block. Is that ok in this context?
I'm not sure we have any other tools here beyond a release barrier
like wmb() or the special pmem cache flush. Neither are blocking or
can fail.
In pmem systems storage failure is handled via the memory failure
stuff asynchronously.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-06 0:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-28 8:07 [RFC PATCH rdma-next 00/10] RDMA/rxe: Add RDMA FLUSH operation Li Zhijian
2021-12-28 8:07 ` [RFC PATCH rdma-next 01/10] RDMA: mr: Introduce is_pmem Li Zhijian
2022-01-06 0:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-06 6:12 ` lizhijian
2022-01-14 8:10 ` Li, Zhijian
2022-01-27 22:30 ` Jeff Moyer
2022-01-16 18:11 ` Dan Williams
2022-01-18 8:55 ` lizhijian
2022-01-18 15:28 ` Dan Williams
2022-01-19 2:01 ` lizhijian
2021-12-28 8:07 ` [RFC PATCH rdma-next 02/10] RDMA: Allow registering MR with flush access flags Li Zhijian
2021-12-28 8:07 ` [RFC PATCH rdma-next 03/10] RDMA/rxe: Allow registering FLUSH flags for supported device only Li Zhijian
2022-01-06 0:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-06 6:20 ` lizhijian
2022-01-13 6:43 ` lizhijian
2021-12-28 8:07 ` [RFC PATCH rdma-next 04/10] RDMA/rxe: Enable IB_DEVICE_RDMA_FLUSH for rxe device Li Zhijian
2022-01-06 0:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-06 6:26 ` lizhijian
2021-12-28 8:07 ` [RFC PATCH rdma-next 05/10] RDMA/rxe: Allow registering persistent flag for pmem MR only Li Zhijian
2021-12-30 22:25 ` Tom Talpey
2021-12-31 3:34 ` lizhijian
2021-12-31 14:40 ` Tom Talpey
2022-01-04 1:32 ` lizhijian
2021-12-28 8:07 ` [RFC PATCH rdma-next 06/10] RDMA/rxe: Implement RC RDMA FLUSH service in requester side Li Zhijian
2021-12-28 8:07 ` [RFC PATCH rdma-next 07/10] RDMA/rxe: Set BTH's SE to zero for FLUSH packet Li Zhijian
2021-12-28 8:07 ` [RFC PATCH rdma-next 08/10] RDMA/rxe: Implement flush execution in responder side Li Zhijian
2021-12-30 22:18 ` Tom Talpey
2021-12-31 1:37 ` lizhijian
2021-12-31 2:32 ` Tom Talpey
2022-01-04 8:51 ` lizhijian
2022-01-04 16:02 ` Tom Talpey
2022-01-06 0:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2022-01-04 16:40 ` Tom Talpey
2022-01-05 1:43 ` lizhijian
2022-01-06 0:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-06 6:42 ` lizhijian
2022-01-06 17:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-10 5:45 ` lizhijian
2022-01-10 14:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-11 5:34 ` lizhijian
2022-01-11 20:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-12 9:50 ` lizhijian
2022-01-12 13:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-13 6:29 ` lizhijian
2021-12-28 8:07 ` [RFC PATCH rdma-next 09/10] RDMA/rxe: Implement flush completion Li Zhijian
2021-12-28 8:07 ` [RFC PATCH rdma-next 10/10] RDMA/rxe: Add RD FLUSH service support Li Zhijian
2021-12-29 8:49 ` [RFC PATCH rdma-next 00/10] RDMA/rxe: Add RDMA FLUSH operation Gromadzki, Tomasz
2021-12-29 14:35 ` Tom Talpey
2021-12-31 1:10 ` lizhijian
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