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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "yangx.jy@fujitsu.com" <yangx.jy@fujitsu.com>
Cc: Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>,
	"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	"yanjun.zhu@linux.dev" <yanjun.zhu@linux.dev>,
	"rpearsonhpe@gmail.com" <rpearsonhpe@gmail.com>,
	"y-goto@fujitsu.com" <y-goto@fujitsu.com>,
	"lizhijian@fujitsu.com" <lizhijian@fujitsu.com>,
	"tomasz.gromadzki@intel.com" <tomasz.gromadzki@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] RDMA/rxe: Add RDMA Atomic Write operation
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2022 08:22:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220107122244.GR2328285@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <61D7A23B.40905@fujitsu.com>

On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 02:15:25AM +0000, yangx.jy@fujitsu.com wrote:
> On 2022/1/6 21:00, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 06, 2022 at 10:52:47AM +0000, yangx.jy@fujitsu.com wrote:
> >> On 2022/1/6 7:53, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 04:39:01PM -0500, Tom Talpey wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Because RXE is a software provider, I believe the most natural approach
> >>>> here is to use an atomic64_set(dst, *src).
> >>> A smp_store_release() is most likely sufficient.
> >> Hi Jason, Tom
> >>
> >> Is smp_store_mb() better here? It calls WRITE_ONCE + smb_mb/barrier().
> >> I think the semantics of 'atomic write' is to do atomic write and make
> >> the 8-byte data reach the memory.
> > No, it is not 'data reach memory' it is a 'release' in that if the CPU
> > later does an 'acquire' on the written data it is guarenteed to see
> > all the preceeding writes.
> Hi Jason, Tom
> 
> Sorry for the wrong statement. I mean that the semantics of 'atomic 
> write' is to write an 8-byte value atomically and make the 8-byte value 
> visible for all CPUs.
> 'smp_store_release' makes all the preceding writes visible for all CPUs 
> before doing an atomic write. I think this guarantee should be done by 
> the preceding 'flush'.

That isn't what the spec says by my reading, and it would be a useless
primitive to allow the ATOMIC WRITE to become visible before any data
it might be guarding.

> 'smp_store_mb' does an atomic write and then makes the atomic write 
> visible for all CPUs. Subsequent 'flush' is only used to make the atomic 
> write persistent.

persistent is a different subject.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-07 12:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-30 12:14 [RFC PATCH 0/2] RDMA/rxe: Add RDMA Atomic Write operation Xiao Yang
2021-12-30 12:14 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] RDMA/rxe: Rename send_atomic_ack() and atomic member of struct resp_res Xiao Yang
2021-12-30 12:14 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] RDMA/rxe: Add RDMA Atomic Write operation Xiao Yang
2021-12-30 21:39   ` Tom Talpey
2021-12-31  8:29     ` yangx.jy
2021-12-31 15:09       ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]         ` <61D563B4.2070106@fujitsu.com>
2022-01-07 15:50           ` Tom Talpey
2022-01-07 17:11             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-12  9:24             ` yangx.jy
2022-01-05 23:53     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-06 10:52       ` yangx.jy
2022-01-06 13:00         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-07  2:15           ` yangx.jy
2022-01-07 12:22             ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2022-01-07 15:38               ` Tom Talpey
2022-01-07 19:28                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-07 20:11                   ` Tom Talpey
2021-12-31  3:01   ` lizhijian
2021-12-31  6:02     ` yangx.jy
2021-12-30 19:21 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] " Gromadzki, Tomasz
2021-12-30 21:42   ` Tom Talpey
2021-12-31  6:30     ` yangx.jy
2022-01-04  9:28       ` yangx.jy
2022-01-04 15:17         ` Tom Talpey
2022-01-05  1:00           ` yangx.jy
2022-01-06  0:01             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-06  1:54               ` yangx.jy
2022-01-10 15:42                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-11  2:34                   ` yangx.jy
2022-01-11 23:29                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-02-11 13:18           ` Gromadzki, Tomasz
2022-02-17  3:50 ` yangx.jy
2022-02-19 10:37   ` Leon Romanovsky

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