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From: Dust Li <dust.li@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Yanjun Zhu <yanjun.zhu@linux.dev>,
	Zhu Yanjun <yanjun.zhu@intel.com>,
	jgg@ziepe.ca, leon@kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] RDMA net namespace
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 12:08:38 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221026040838.GE56517@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1bf1e54f-f8d2-6b8c-5ded-ef701719816d@linux.dev>

On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 10:51:38AM +0800, Yanjun Zhu wrote:
>
>在 2022/10/24 22:35, Dust Li 写道:
>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 09:12:56PM +0800, Yanjun Zhu wrote:
>> > 在 2022/10/24 19:52, Dust Li 写道:
>> > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 06:15:01AM +0000, yanjun.zhu@linux.dev wrote:
>> > > > October 24, 2022 9:10 AM, "Dust Li" <dust.li@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:
>> > > > 
>> > > > > On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 06:04:47PM -0400, Zhu Yanjun wrote:
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > > From: Zhu Yanjun <yanjun.zhu@linux.dev>
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > There are shared and exclusive modes in RDMA net namespace. After
>> > > > > > discussion with Leon, the above modes are compatible with legacy IB
>> > > > > > device.
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > To the RoCE and iWARP devices, the ib devices should be in the same net
>> > > > > > namespace with the related net devices regardless of in shared or
>> > > > > > exclusive mode.
>> > > > > Does this mean that shared mode is no longer supported for RoCE and iWarp
>> > > > > devices ?
>> > > >From the discussion,  a RoCE and iWarp device should make ib devices and net devices in the same net. So a RoCE and iWarp device has no shared/exclusive modes.
>> > > > Shared/exclusive modes are for legacy ib devices, such as ipoib.
>> > > > 
>> > > > In this patch series, shared/exclusive modes are left for legacy ib devices.
>> > > > To a RoCE and iWarp device, we just keep net devices and ib devices in the same net.
>> > > I think this may limit the use case of RoCE and iWarp.
>> > > 
>> > > See the following use case:
>> > > In the container enviroment, we may have lots of containers on a host,
>> > > for example, more than 100. And we don't have that much VFs, so we use
>> > > ipvlan or other virtual network devices for each container, and put
>> > > those virtual network devices into each container(net namespace).
>> > > Since we only use 1 physical network device for all those containers,
>> > > there is only one RoCE device. If we don't support shared mode, we
>> > > cannot even enable RDMA for those containers with RoCE.
>> > You use the ipvlan or other virtual network devices for each container.
>> > 
>> > In these containers, you also use RDMA, correct?
>> > 
>> > Since all the packets for these virtual network devices finally come to
>> > 
>> > the physical network devices, without shared/exclusive modes, it should work.
>> > 
>> > So we do not consider the shared/exclusive mode.
>> For the netdevice, that's true. But for RDMA, we should not even see
>> the ib device in the containers any more, so I think we cannot create
>> qp/cq, and RDMA is not available for these containers in this case.
>
>I can not get you.
>
>Do you mean that RDMA can not be accessed in the container after these
>patches are applied?
>
>Can you share a test case with me?

OK, I will test your patch first and if possible I will provider a test
case.

Thanks


>
>
>Zhu Yanjun
>
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > Zhu Yanjun
>> > 
>> > > I don't know any other way to solve this, maybe I missed something ?
>> > > 
>> > > Thanks
>> > > 
>> > > > 
>> > > > > > In the first commit, when the net devices are moved to a new net
>> > > > > > namespace, the related ib devices are also moved to the same net
>> > > > > > namespace.
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > In the second commit, the shared/exclusive modes still work with legacy
>> > > > > > ib devices. To the RoCE and iWARP devices, these modes will not be
>> > > > > > considered.
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > Because MLX4/5 do not call the function ib_device_set_netdev to map ib
>> > > > > > devices and the related net devices, the function ib_device_get_by_netdev
>> > > > > > can not get ib devices from net devices. In the third commit, all the
>> > > > > > registered ib devices are parsed to get the net devices, then compared
>> > > > > > with the given net devices.
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > The steps to make tests:
>> > > > > > 1) Create a new net namespace net0
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > ip netns add net0
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > 2) Show the rdma links in init_net
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > rdma link
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > "
>> > > > > > link mlx5_0/1 state DOWN physical_state DISABLED netdev enp7s0np1
>> > > > > > "
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > 3) Move the net device to net namespace net0
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > ip link set enp7s0np1 netns net0
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > 4) Show the rdma links in init_net again
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > rdma link
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > There is no rdma links
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > 5) Show the rdma links in net0
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > ip netns exec net0 rdma link
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > "
>> > > > > > link mlx5_0/1 state DOWN physical_state DISABLED netdev enp7s0np1
>> > > > > > "
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > We can confirm that rdma links are moved to the same net namespace with
>> > > > > > the net devices.
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > Zhu Yanjun (3):
>> > > > > > RDMA/core: Move ib device to the same net namespace with net device
>> > > > > > RDMA/core: The legacy IB devices still work with shared/exclusive mode
>> > > > > > RDMA/core: Get all the ib devices from net devices
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > drivers/infiniband/core/device.c | 107 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>> > > > > > 1 file changed, 105 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > --
>> > > > > > 2.27.0

  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-26  4:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-23 22:04 [PATCH 0/3] RDMA net namespace Zhu Yanjun
2022-10-23 13:04 ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-10-23 13:42   ` Yanjun Zhu
2022-10-23 16:45     ` Leon Romanovsky
2022-10-24  7:20       ` yanjun.zhu
2022-10-23 22:04 ` [PATCH 1/3] RDMA/core: Move ib device to the same net namespace with net device Zhu Yanjun
2022-10-23 22:04 ` [PATCH 2/3] RDMA/core: The legacy IB devices still work with shared/exclusive mode Zhu Yanjun
2022-10-23 22:04 ` [PATCH 3/3] RDMA/core: Get all the ib devices from net devices Zhu Yanjun
2022-10-24  1:10 ` [PATCH 0/3] RDMA net namespace Dust Li
2022-10-24  6:15   ` yanjun.zhu
2022-10-24 11:52     ` Dust Li
2022-10-24 13:12       ` Yanjun Zhu
2022-10-24 14:35         ` Dust Li
2022-10-24 16:41           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-10-25  2:51           ` Yanjun Zhu
2022-10-26  4:08             ` Dust Li [this message]
2022-10-26 15:01 ` Dust Li
2022-10-27  2:30   ` Dust Li
2022-10-27  2:54     ` yanjun.zhu
2022-10-27  3:01     ` Parav Pandit
2022-10-27  3:07       ` yanjun.zhu
2022-10-27  3:10         ` Parav Pandit
2022-10-27  3:17           ` yanjun.zhu
2022-10-27  3:21             ` Parav Pandit
2022-10-27  3:39               ` yanjun.zhu
2022-10-27  3:48                 ` Parav Pandit
2022-10-27  6:01                   ` yanjun.zhu
2022-10-27 14:06                     ` Parav Pandit
2022-10-28  3:21                       ` Yanjun Zhu
2022-10-28  3:31                         ` Parav Pandit
2022-10-28  3:49                           ` Yanjun Zhu
2022-10-28  3:58                             ` Parav Pandit
2022-11-11  2:38                               ` Yanjun Zhu

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