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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: Cosmin Ratiu <cratiu@nvidia.com>
Cc: "ttoukan.linux@gmail.com" <ttoukan.linux@gmail.com>,
	"jiri@resnulli.us" <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	"andrew+netdev@lunn.ch" <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Tariq Toukan <tariqt@nvidia.com>, Gal Pressman <gal@nvidia.com>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>,
	"pabeni@redhat.com" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"edumazet@google.com" <edumazet@google.com>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next V5 00/11] net/mlx5: ConnectX-8 SW Steering + Rate management on traffic classes
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 17:49:49 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241211174949.2daa6046@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1593e9dd015dafcce967a9c328452ff963a69d68.camel@nvidia.com>

On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 09:49:28 +0000 Cosmin Ratiu wrote:
> I've looked over the latest version of the net-shapers API.
> There is some conceptual overlap between this patchset and net-shapers
> ability to define a group of device queues and manipulate its tx
> limits. But as far as I am aware ([1]), the net-shapers API doesn't
> intend to shape entities above netdev level.

It's not about the uAPI but about having a uniform way of representing
the shaping hierarchy.

> So there are two things to discuss here:
> 1. Integrating device-level TC shaping into net-shapers. The net-
> shapers model would need to be extended with the ability to define TC
> queues. At the moment I see it's concerned with device tx queues which
> don't necessarily map 1:1 to traffic classes.

What are "TC queues"? NIC queues with assigned TC? Your patches shape
on a group of VFs, so the equivalent would be a group of queues 
(e.g. group of queues assigned to a container).

> Then, it would need to have the ability to group TC queues into a node.

🧐️ .. grouping of queues was the main direct use case for net-shapers,
so it's definitely there, perhaps I don't understand what you mean.

> Then the integration should be easy. Either API can call the device
> driver implementation or one API can call the other's function to do
> so.
> 
> Paolo, what are your thoughts on tc shaping in the net-shapers API?
> 
> 2. VF-group TC shaping. The current patchset offers the ability to
> split TC bandwidth on a devlink rate node, applying to all VFs in the
> node. As far as I am aware, net-shapers doesn't intend to address this
> use case. Do we want to have two completely different APIs to
> manipulate tc bandwidth?

Exactly my point. We have too many disjoint APIs. net-shapers was
merged on the premise that it will at least align the internal and
driver facing APIs, even if we still need multiple uAPIs.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-12  1:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-04 22:09 [PATCH net-next V5 00/11] net/mlx5: ConnectX-8 SW Steering + Rate management on traffic classes Tariq Toukan
2024-12-04 22:09 ` [PATCH mlx5-next V5 01/11] net/mlx5: ifc: Reorganize mlx5_ifc_flow_table_context_bits Tariq Toukan
2024-12-04 22:09 ` [PATCH mlx5-next V5 02/11] net/mlx5: Add ConnectX-8 device to ifc Tariq Toukan
2024-12-04 22:09 ` [PATCH mlx5-next V5 03/11] net/mlx5: Add support for new scheduling elements Tariq Toukan
2024-12-04 22:09 ` [PATCH mlx5-next V5 04/11] net/mlx5: qos: Add ifc support for cross-esw scheduling Tariq Toukan
2024-12-04 22:09 ` [PATCH net-next V5 05/11] net/mlx5: DR, Expand SWS STE callbacks and consolidate common structs Tariq Toukan
2024-12-04 22:09 ` [PATCH net-next V5 06/11] net/mlx5: DR, Add support for ConnectX-8 steering Tariq Toukan
2024-12-04 22:09 ` [PATCH net-next V5 07/11] devlink: Extend devlink rate API with traffic classes bandwidth management Tariq Toukan
2024-12-07  2:10   ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-09 21:03     ` Tariq Toukan
2024-12-09 21:27       ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-01-20 11:55         ` Carolina Jubran
2025-01-20 18:14           ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-01-21 12:36             ` Carolina Jubran
2025-01-22 12:48               ` Carolina Jubran
2025-01-22 14:30                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2025-02-05  6:22                   ` Tariq Toukan
2025-02-05  6:56                     ` Gal Pressman
2025-02-05  8:02                       ` Tariq Toukan
2024-12-04 22:09 ` [PATCH net-next V5 08/11] net/mlx5: Add no-op implementation for setting tc-bw on rate objects Tariq Toukan
2024-12-04 22:09 ` [PATCH net-next V5 09/11] net/mlx5: Add support for setting tc-bw on nodes Tariq Toukan
2024-12-04 22:09 ` [PATCH net-next V5 10/11] net/mlx5: Add traffic class scheduling support for vport QoS Tariq Toukan
2024-12-04 22:09 ` [PATCH net-next V5 11/11] net/mlx5: Manage TC arbiter nodes and implement full support for tc-bw Tariq Toukan
2024-12-05  9:23 ` [PATCH net-next V5 00/11] net/mlx5: ConnectX-8 SW Steering + Rate management on traffic classes Leon Romanovsky
2024-12-07  2:13 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-09 19:32   ` Tariq Toukan
2024-12-09 21:41     ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-11  9:49       ` Cosmin Ratiu
2024-12-12  1:49         ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2024-12-13 13:42           ` Cosmin Ratiu

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