From: "D. Wythe" <alibuda@linux.alibaba.com >
To: Gerd Bayer <gbayer@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: dust.li@linux.alibaba.com, "D. Wythe" <alibuda@linux.alibaba.com>,
kgraul@linux.ibm.com, wenjia@linux.ibm.com, jaka@linux.ibm.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v7 3/6] net/smc: Introduce generic hook smc_ops
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2025 16:02:28 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250205080228.GA57822@j66a10360.sqa.eu95> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6685f9266702dcf0a3123f9be7c1c0200a5f4032.camel@linux.ibm.com>
On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 11:15:21AM +0100, Gerd Bayer wrote:
> On Thu, 2025-01-23 at 15:30 +0800, Dust Li wrote:
> > On 2025-01-23 09:59:39, D. Wythe wrote:
> > > The introduction of IPPROTO_SMC enables eBPF programs to determine
> > > whether to use SMC based on the context of socket creation, such as
> > > network namespaces, PID and comm name, etc.
> > >
> >
> > I'm still not completely satisfied with the name smc_ops. Since this
> > will be the API for our users, we need to be carefull on the name.
>
> If I may jump in with a suggestion here:
> On my first glance, I'd expect SMC_OPS to offer OPS as a general API.
> The description however suggest that this adds "contol points" or hooks
> in the SMC code, that eBPF programs can use to tweak the protocol's
> behavior. Exclusively eBPF programs, it seems.
>
> So how about naming this SMC_EBPF_HOOKS or SMC_EBPF_SUPPORT?
>
> Just my 2ct,
> Gerd
Hi all,
Thanks for all the suggestion.It seems that the naming of this ops has indeed
sparked some controversy. However, I still oppose explicitly linking the name
to BPF. As I mentioned earlier, this ops is not strongly tied to BPF
implementations, kernel modules can also implement them.
I used ChatGPT to generate some potential names, including:
smc_ops / smc_hook / smc_aug / smc_ext / smc_alert / smc_support
Perhaps these can be used as references.
However, in any case, these changes need to be acked by the SMC
maintainer, but for what I can tell, the maintainer of SMC is currently on
leave, so this discussion may still take some time.
Best wishes,
D. Wythe
>
> >
> > It seems like you're aiming to define a common set of operations, but
> > the implementation appears to be intertwined with BPF. If this is
> > intended to be a common interface, and if we are using another operation,
> > there shouldn’t be a need to hold a BPF reference.
> >
> > As your 'help' sugguest, What about smc_hook ?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Dust
> >
> >
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-05 8:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-23 1:59 [PATCH bpf-next v7 0/6] net/smc: Introduce smc_ops D. Wythe
2025-01-23 1:59 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 1/6] bpf: export necessary sympols for modules with struct_ops D. Wythe
2025-01-23 1:59 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 2/6] net/smc: fix UAF on smcsk after smc_listen_out() D. Wythe
2025-01-23 2:21 ` Guangguan Wang
2025-01-23 1:59 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 3/6] net/smc: Introduce generic hook smc_ops D. Wythe
2025-01-23 7:30 ` Dust Li
2025-01-23 10:15 ` Gerd Bayer
2025-02-05 8:02 ` D. Wythe [this message]
2025-01-23 1:59 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 4/6] net/smc: bpf: register smc_ops info struct_ops D. Wythe
2025-01-23 1:59 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 5/6] libbpf: fix error when st-prefix_ops and ops from differ btf D. Wythe
2025-01-23 1:59 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 6/6] bpf/selftests: add selftest for bpf_smc_ops D. Wythe
2025-01-26 9:48 ` Zhu Yanjun
2025-01-23 7:33 ` [PATCH bpf-next v7 0/6] net/smc: Introduce smc_ops Dust Li
2025-02-14 9:22 ` D. Wythe
2025-02-14 11:37 ` Wenjia Zhang
2025-02-17 5:44 ` D. Wythe
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