From: Bob Pearson <rpearsonhpe@gmail.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Zhu Yanjun <zyjzyj2000@gmail.com>,
"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: much about ah objects in rxe
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2022 17:11:42 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <387a0976-9f6f-29d3-347f-0ae551821b34@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220422210025.GL2120790@nvidia.com>
On 4/22/22 16:00, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 01:32:24PM -0500, Bob Pearson wrote:
>> Jason,
>>
>> I am confused a little.
>>
>> - xa_alloc_xxx internally takes xa->xa_lock with a spinlock but
>> has a gfp_t parameter which is normally GFP_KERNEL. So I trust them when they say
>> that it releases the lock around kmalloc's by 'magic' as you say.
>>
>> - The only read side operation on the rxe pool xarrays is in rxe_pool_get_index() but
>> that will be protected by a rcu_read_lock so it can't deadlock with the write
>> side spinlocks regardless of type (plain, _bh, _saveirq)
>>
>> - Apparently CM is calling ib_create_ah while holding spin locks. This would
>> call xa_alloc_xxx which would unlock xa_lock and call kmalloc(..., GFP_KERNEL)
>> which should cause a warning for AH. You say it does not because xarray doesn't
>> call might_sleep().
>>
>> I am not sure how might_sleep() works. When I add might_sleep() just ahead of
>> xa_alloc_xxx() it does not cause warnings for CM test cases (e.g. rping.)
>> Another way to study this would be to test for in_atomic() but
>
> might_sleep should work, it definately triggers from inside a
> spinlock. Perhaps you don't have all the right debug kconfig enabled?
>
>> that seems to be discouraged and may not work as assumed. It's hard to reproduce
>> evidence that ib_create_ah really has spinlocks held by the caller. I think it
>> was seen in lockdep traces but I have a hard time reading them.
>
> There is a call to create_ah inside RDMA CM that is under a spinlock
>
>> - There is a lot of effort trying to make 'deadlocks' go away. But the read side
>> is going to end as up rcu_read_lock so there soon will be no deadlocks with
>> rxe_pool_get_index() possible. xarrays were designed to work well with rcu
>> so it would better to just go ahead and do it. Verbs objects tend to be long
>> lived with lots of IO on each instance. This is a perfect use case for rcu.
>
> Yes
>
>> I think this means there is no reason for anything but a plain spinlock in rxe_alloc
>> and rxe_add_to_pool.
>
> Maybe, are you sure there are no other xa spinlocks held from an IRQ?
>
> And you still have to deal with the create AH called in an atomic
> region.
There are only 3 references to the xarrays:
1. When an object is allocated. Either from rxe_alloc() which is called
an MR is registered or from rxe_add_to_pool() when the other
objects are created.
2. When an object is looked up from rxe_pool_get_index()
3. When an object is cleaned up from rxe_xxx_destroy() and similar.
For non AH objects the create and destroy verbs are always called in process
context and non-atomic and the lookup routine is normally called in soft IRQ
context but doesn't take a lock when rcu is used so can't deadlock.
For AH objects the create call is always called in process context but may
or may not hold an irq spinlock so hard interrupts are disabled to prevent
deadlocking CMs locks. The cleanup call is also in process context but also
may or may not hold an irq spinlock (not sure if it happens). These calls
can't deadlock each other for the xa_lock because there either won't be an
interrupt or because the process context calls don't cause reentering the
rxe code. They also can't deadlock with the lookup call when it is using rcu.
>
>> To sum up once we have rcu enabled the only required change is to use GFP_ATOMIC
>> or find a way to pre-allocate for AH objects (assuming that I can convince myself
>> that ib_create_ah really comes with spinlocks held).
>
> Possibly yes
>
> Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-04-22 22:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-04-22 18:32 much about ah objects in rxe Bob Pearson
2022-04-22 21:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-22 22:11 ` Bob Pearson [this message]
2022-04-23 1:18 ` Zhu Yanjun
2022-04-23 1:48 ` Bob Pearson
2022-04-23 2:35 ` Zhu Yanjun
2022-04-23 4:34 ` Bob Pearson
2022-04-23 8:02 ` Zhu Yanjun
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