From: Richard Frank <richard.frank-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Roland Dreier <rdreier-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: David Brean <David.Brean-UdXhSnd/wVw@public.gmane.org>,
linux-rdma <linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: strong ordering for data registered memory
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:16:26 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AFAFF7A.4090602@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adaskclvta4.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
Today apps are forced to assume that all transports can not provide
strong ordering..
and hence must implement solutions to work around this.
There are specific optimizations an app might make if it knows the
underpinning
transport can make these guarantees..
It would be useful if "strong ordering" were exposed as attribute from a
transport..
and as well - have the ability to provide a hint to enable "strong
ordering" on either
registration or per operation or at the qp level .
Are there any HCAs that provide "strong ordering" today ?
Roland Dreier wrote:
> > Some time ago there was an email sent to this group with the subject
> > "weak ordering for data registered memory". I don't recall any action
> > resulting from this thread. So, I have a question. If a bit were
> > defined to specify "strong ordering", perhaps as a "access" flag (see
> > ibv_access_flags) and used with ibv_reg_mr(), would that be sufficient
> > for (1) client applications that need a HW "guarantee" of writing the
> > last byte of an RDMA last and (2) platform implementations that need
> > to deliver that feature?
>
> What would happen if an application asked for strong ordering and the
> adapter and/or platform is not capable of that?
>
> Weak ordering is a bit easier to handle -- the app is saying "if you can
> make things go faster, don't worry about ordering here" and a platform
> where it doesn't matter can just ignore it.
>
> - R.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-11 18:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-10 20:19 strong ordering for data registered memory David Brean
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2009-11-11 17:57 ` Roland Dreier
[not found] ` <adaskclvta4.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-11 18:16 ` Richard Frank [this message]
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2009-11-11 22:11 ` David Brean
[not found] ` <4AFB3677.6050603-UdXhSnd/wVw@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-11 22:44 ` Richard Frank
[not found] ` <4AFB3E6B.3080606-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-11 23:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20091111231338.GZ1966-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-12 5:41 ` Dave Olson
2009-11-12 20:43 ` David Brean
2009-11-11 21:37 ` David Brean
[not found] ` <4AFB2EA5.4030804-UdXhSnd/wVw@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-11 23:06 ` Roland Dreier
[not found] ` <ada639gvezo.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-12 20:42 ` David Brean
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2009-11-12 21:51 Caitlin Bestler
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