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From: Steve Wise <swise-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
To: Roland Dreier <rdreier-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Tung,
	Chien Tin"
	<chien.tin.tung-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"Waskiewicz Jr,
	Peter P"
	<peter.p.waskiewicz.jr-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] RDMA/CMA: fix iWARP adapter TCP port space usage
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:45:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C12CA8C.6050806@opengridcomputing.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adamxv1w7cb.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>

Roland Dreier wrote:
>  > You can peruse this thread from 2007:
>  > 
>  > http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/8/15/174
>  > 
>  > In that thread David Miller said he would NAK this solution and even
>  > NAK a solution where we expose the low level port allocation services
>  > and allow RDMA/iWARP and TCP to share the port space.  Thus I see no
>  > way to resolve this issue with Dave's ACK, and maybe the RDMA
>  > contributors and maintainers should move forward without it?
>
> If Dave Miller says this is an unacceptable thing to merge, then I'm not
> going to merge it over his explicit and unequivocal NAK.  Trying sneak
> this in by hiding this patch on linux-rdma without cc-ing netdev is the
> wrong approach... the right approach is to get the hordes of users being
> hurt by this issue (if there are such hordes), make a big stink, and
> force a solution that everyone agrees on.
>
>   

I hear ya.

It seems to be difficult to get end users to horde up and stink about 
these sorts of technical issues, because they don't have the background 
to argue their case.   And technical merit alone isn't working here.

Steve.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-06-11 23:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-11 12:47 [PATCH v2] RDMA/CMA: fix iWARP adapter TCP port space usage Chien Tung
2010-06-11 16:03 ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]   ` <adapqzxy2sb.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-11 19:49     ` Tung, Chien Tin
     [not found]       ` <2EFBCAEF10980645BBCFB605689E08E904924CCE42-uLM7Qlg6MbdZtRGVdHMbwrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-11 21:13         ` Steve Wise
     [not found]           ` <4C12A6E8.5040400-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-11 22:08             ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]               ` <adamxv1w7cb.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-11 22:41                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                   ` <20100611224126.GA4630-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-11 22:47                     ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                       ` <CF9C39F99A89134C9CF9C4CCB68B8DDF255F6BB9B7-osO9UTpF0USkrb+BlOpmy7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-11 22:55                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2010-06-11 23:40                     ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                       ` <4C12C971.4000909-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-12  0:04                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                           ` <20100612000431.GC4630-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-12  1:18                             ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                               ` <4C12E073.2040008-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-12  1:56                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                   ` <20100612015652.GA7648-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-12  2:10                                     ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                       ` <4C12EC89.1030305-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-12  4:34                                         ` Peter P Waskiewicz Jr
     [not found]                                           ` <Pine.WNT.4.64.1006112117160.6192-sfjRBClDQW9noNDWh8xLylnYeNYlB/vhral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-12  4:46                                             ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                               ` <adaeigcx3hw.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-12  6:30                                                 ` Pradeep Satyanarayana
2010-06-12 15:17                                                 ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                                   ` <4C13A526.3040500-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-17 14:14                                                     ` Bernard Metzler
     [not found]                                                       ` <OF026C9B22.332F6F2C-ONC1257745.00429E02-C1257745.004E411D-Xeyd2O9EBijQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-17 14:56                                                         ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                                           ` <4C1A378B.9030509-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-17 16:13                                                             ` Bernard Metzler
2010-06-23 17:30                                                         ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                                           ` <ada8w65veq4.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 17:37                                                             ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                                               ` <4C224652.2060601-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 18:33                                                                 ` Tung, Chien Tin
     [not found]                                                                   ` <2EFBCAEF10980645BBCFB605689E08E90492696E76-uLM7Qlg6MbdZtRGVdHMbwrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 18:48                                                                     ` Steve Wise
2010-06-23 18:20                                                             ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                                               ` <4C225078.6050001-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 18:28                                                                 ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                                                   ` <adar5jxtxho.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 18:46                                                                     ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                                                       ` <4C225697.6060702-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 18:45                                                                         ` Roland Dreier
2010-06-23 19:29                                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                           ` <20100623192909.GT4630-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 19:42                                                                             ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                                                               ` <4C2263B3.9010608-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 19:45                                                                                 ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <4C226441.5000904-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 19:49                                                                                     ` Steve Wise
2010-06-23 19:52                                                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <20100623195210.GU4630-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 20:01                                                                                     ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                                                                       ` <adawrtpsem5.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 20:13                                                                                         ` Steve Wise
2010-06-23 20:11                                                                                     ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                                                                       ` <4C226A6F.4000801-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 20:09                                                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                                           ` <20100623200937.GV4630-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 20:19                                                                                             ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                                                                               ` <4C226C53.7080802-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 20:26                                                                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                                                   ` <20100623202607.GW4630-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 20:39                                                                                                     ` Steve Wise
2010-06-23 20:29                                                                                                 ` Steve Wise
2010-06-23 19:17                                                                     ` Tung, Chien Tin
     [not found]                                                                       ` <2EFBCAEF10980645BBCFB605689E08E90492696EF7-uLM7Qlg6MbdZtRGVdHMbwrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 19:50                                                                         ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                                                           ` <ada6319ttnj.fsf-BjVyx320WGW9gfZ95n9DRSW4+XlvGpQz@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-23 20:51                                                                             ` Tung, Chien Tin
2010-06-25 16:46                                                                             ` Bernard Metzler
     [not found]                                                                               ` <OFE69DF7DF.E7AB1B1F-ONC125774D.0035CCED-C125774D.005C2F46-Xeyd2O9EBijQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-25 20:14                                                                                 ` Tung, Chien Tin
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <2EFBCAEF10980645BBCFB605689E08E904926FF2A4-uLM7Qlg6MbdZtRGVdHMbwrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06 20:52                                                                                     ` Tung, Chien Tin
     [not found]                                                                                       ` <2EFBCAEF10980645BBCFB605689E08E904928D9C9B-uLM7Qlg6MbdZtRGVdHMbwrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06 21:03                                                                                         ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                                                                           ` <4C339A13.3030802-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-07 15:37                                                                                             ` Bernard Metzler
     [not found]                                                                                               ` <OF9B577A15.49E0F3EB-ONC1257759.005129F2-C1257759.0055D7D7-Xeyd2O9EBijQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-07 16:26                                                                                                 ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                                                                                   ` <4C34AAA6.2080909-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-07 18:10                                                                                                     ` Tung, Chien Tin
     [not found]                                                                                                       ` <2EFBCAEF10980645BBCFB605689E08E904928DA373-uLM7Qlg6MbdZtRGVdHMbwrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-07 18:12                                                                                                         ` Steve Wise
2010-06-12  5:22                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                               ` <20100612052242.GA17793-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-12 14:51                                                 ` Tung, Chien Tin
2010-06-11 23:45                 ` Steve Wise [this message]
2010-06-11 19:40 ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]   ` <AANLkTinDsfGtQZUc6kfW2-pWK51V2SK3CLjE-8jDjfzN-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-11 19:52     ` Tung, Chien Tin

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