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From: Gal Pressman <galpress@amazon.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>, Michal Kalderon <mkalderon@marvell.com>
Cc: "dledford@redhat.com" <dledford@redhat.com>,
	"leon@kernel.org" <leon@kernel.org>,
	"sleybo@amazon.com" <sleybo@amazon.com>,
	Ariel Elior <aelior@marvell.com>,
	"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: [RFC rdma 1/3] RDMA/core: Create a common mmap function
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2019 09:41:09 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4d8c8c9e-df8a-6555-c11a-b53a5dd274fe@amazon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190705173551.GC31543@ziepe.ca>

On 05/07/2019 20:35, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 05:24:18PM +0000, Michal Kalderon wrote:
>>> From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
>>> Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 6:33 PM
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 05, 2019 at 03:29:03PM +0000, Michal Kalderon wrote:
>>>>> From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2019 3:35 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> External Email
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 11:19:34AM +0300, Gal Pressman wrote:
>>>>>> On 03/07/2019 1:31, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>>>>>>> Seems except Mellanox + hns the mmap flags aren't ABI.
>>>>>>>> Also, current Mellanox code seems like it won't benefit from
>>>>>>>> mmap cookie helper functions in any case as the mmap function
>>>>>>>> is very specific and the flags used indicate the address and
>>>>>>>> not just how to map
>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IMHO, mlx5 has a goofy implementaiton here as it codes all of
>>>>>>> the object type, handle and cachability flags in one thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do we need object type flags as well in the generic mmap code?
>>>>>
>>>>> At the end of the day the driver needs to know what page to map
>>>>> during the mmap syscall.
>>>>>
>>>>> mlx5 does this by encoding the page type in the address, and then
>>>>> many types have seperate lookups based onthe offset for the actual
>>> page.
>>>>>
>>>>> IMHO the single lookup and opaque offset is generally better..
>>>>>
>>>>> Since the mlx5 scheme is ABI it can't be changed unfortunately.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to do user controlled cachability flags, or not, is a
>>>>> fair question, but they still become ABI..
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm wondering if it really makes sense to do that during the mmap,
>>>>> or if the cachability should be set as part of creating the cookie?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Another issue is that these flags aren't exposed in an ABI file,
>>>>>> so a userspace library can't really make use of it in current state.
>>>>>
>>>>> Woops.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah, this is all ABI so you need to dig out of this hole ASAP :)
>>>>>
>>>> Jason, I didn't follow - what is all ABI?
>>>> currently EFA implementation encodes the cachability inside the key,
>>>> It's not exposed in ABI file and is opaque to user-space. The kernel
>>>> decides on the cachability And get's it back in the key when mmap is
>>>> called. It seems good enough for the current cases.
>>>
>>> Then the key 'offset' should not include cachability information at all.
>>>
>> Fair enough, so as you stated above the cachabiliy can be set in the cookie. 
>> Would we still like to leave some bits for future ABI enhancements, requests, from user ? 
>> Similar to a page type that mlx has ? 
> 
> Doesn't make sense to mix and match, the page_type was just some way
> to avoid tracking cookies in some cases. If we are always having a
> cookie then the cookie should indicate the type based on how it was
> created. Totally opaque

I'm fine with removing the cachability flags from the ABI, but I don't see how
the page types can be added without exposing them in the key.

If we want to mmap something that's not a QP/CQ/... how can we do that? I guess
only by returning some key in alloc_ucontext?

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-07  6:41 UTC|newest]

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2019-07-04 12:35                 ` [RFC rdma 1/3] RDMA/core: Create a common mmap function Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-05 15:29                   ` [EXT] " Michal Kalderon
2019-07-05 15:32                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-05 17:24                       ` Michal Kalderon
2019-07-05 17:35                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-07  6:41                           ` Gal Pressman [this message]
2019-07-07 11:30                             ` Michal Kalderon

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