From: brendan doyle <brendan.doyle-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe
<jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Weiny, Ira" <ira.weiny-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Boris Chiu <boris.chiu-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
"iweiny-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org"
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"linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
<linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
Pramod Gunjikar
<pramod.gunjikar-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [PATCH] libibmad: Fixes for failures when not all ports of HCA are connected]
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 22:44:47 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <514A3BDF.2090105@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130320222422.GA30100-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
On 20/03/2013 22:24, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 10:00:09PM +0000, brendan doyle wrote:
>
>>>>> As far as I can see the library is not documented at all, I can't find
>>>>> any man pages. So setting errno is not breaking the interface, and I
>>>>> would argue that if it adds value, which it does in this case, then
>>>>> what is the objection. Additionally I think if the approach is that
>>>>> errno is not set unless documented in a man page, then we should have
>>>>> some consistency, a quick grep of errno in libibmad reveals that errno
>>>>> is being set in other parts of the library, in libibumad too, we see
>>>>> errno set, but again it is not documented in the umad man pages.
>>>> Ideally we would have consistency amongst the IB libraries - try hard to
>>>> return -ERRNO like verbs, and only use errno for cases where an int return is
>>>> not possible.
>>> Since these calls return int I thought about this. But I am
>>> worried about breaking users who may be explicitly checking for -1.
>>> OTOH nothing is documented.
>
>> Well there are man pages for umad and verbs and though some verbs
>> man pages say errno is set for failure, they don't indicate what it
>> is set to, and umad man pages say nothing of errno. In any case the
>> proposed changes don't change the return value, and so won't break
>> existing users, again I can only see goodness being added, and fail
>> to see any negative implications?
> Patches adding inconsistency are not 'goodness'.
Where is the inconsistency? failure is still returned as -1, and errno
is still
undefined, it is set in some parts of libibmad and not others, so nothing
has changed from a consumer perspective?
Also this is just one aspect of the proposed update the other hardens the
lib from trying to use an invalid SM LID.
>
> People have to use this stuff and try to write correct
> applications. Playing wack a mole on 'how does this call return
> errors' is a special kind of nightmare.
Again the patch does not break the existing API -1 is still failure.
>
> .. and look, I already got it wrong in my memory, verbs consistently
> uses the POSIX +ERRNO convention, not the kernel's -ERRNO convention.
>
> Ira, do you know any place that would break if +ERRNO is returned, or
> is this just a hypothetical? Even so, I'm not sure I have much
> sympathy for people checking against -1... that is only appropriate
> for FDs.
>
> Jason
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2013-03-15 1:26 ` [Fwd: Re: [PATCH] libibmad: Fixes for failures when not all ports of HCA are connected] brendan.doyle-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA
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2013-03-20 1:27 ` Weiny, Ira
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2013-03-20 18:35 ` brendan doyle
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2013-03-20 19:02 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2013-03-20 21:52 ` Weiny, Ira
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2013-03-20 22:00 ` brendan doyle
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2013-03-20 22:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2013-03-20 22:44 ` brendan doyle [this message]
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2013-03-20 23:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2013-03-20 23:30 ` Hefty, Sean
2013-03-21 1:01 ` brendan doyle
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2013-03-21 5:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2013-03-21 20:37 ` brendan doyle
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2013-03-21 21:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2013-03-21 21:58 ` Weiny, Ira
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2013-03-21 22:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2013-03-21 22:46 ` Weiny, Ira
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2013-03-21 22:49 ` Weiny, Ira
2013-03-21 22:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2013-03-21 22:53 ` Weiny, Ira
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2013-03-21 22:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2013-03-21 23:05 ` Weiny, Ira
2013-03-21 23:04 ` brendan doyle
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2013-03-21 23:06 ` Weiny, Ira
[not found] ` <2807E5FD2F6FDA4886F6618EAC48510EBB4BBF-8k97q/ur5Z1cIJlls4ac1rfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-26 23:22 ` brendan.doyle-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA
2013-03-21 22:07 ` brendan doyle
2013-03-21 21:30 ` Weiny, Ira
[not found] ` <2807E5FD2F6FDA4886F6618EAC48510EBB4AB2-8k97q/ur5Z1cIJlls4ac1rfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-21 21:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2013-03-21 22:12 ` brendan doyle
2013-03-21 21:37 ` Weiny, Ira
[not found] ` <2807E5FD2F6FDA4886F6618EAC48510EBB4ACB-8k97q/ur5Z1cIJlls4ac1rfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-21 21:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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