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From: Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Roland Dreier <roland-BHEL68pLQRGGvPXPguhicg@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)"
	<jsquyres-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Jason Gunthorpe
	<jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>,
	"Hefty,
	Sean" <sean.hefty-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] libibverbs: Allow arbitrary int values for MTU
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 13:57:37 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51E6DB11.9050906@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL1RGDWKmecLXsqphwdP9XG=4Y=65Z_ACSdRBhEqVQb6Q4LrUg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On 07/16/2013 08:16 PM, Roland Dreier wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)
> <jsquyres-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> - doing it this way preserves ABI, so existing binaries are safe
> 
> I still don't get this.  Wouldn't an existing binary be pretty
> surprised to get a value wildly out of range of the enum?

Yes, but there's no way around that without simply lying about the MTU.
 So, the argument was made in the thread that historically, applications
have had to be modified when moved to a new link layer (aka, iWARP meant
IB apps had to be slightly modified for connection reasons, RoCE again
required some slight app modifications, etc) so this was seen as a case
of "the app will work on fabrics it already knows about, and will only
get confused if moved to this new fabric, and in that case, the app
needs to be modified anyway, so that's acceptable breakage for keeping
the apps working the rest of the time".  That was the argument anyway.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-17 17:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-02 12:31 [PATCH V2] libibverbs: Allow arbitrary int values for MTU Jeff Squyres
     [not found] ` <1372768306-6786-1-git-send-email-jsquyres-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-04  0:36   ` Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)
2013-07-05 19:11   ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]     ` <CAL1RGDVU9otyMtoit1PJR5JkVy4XvU=4xjL1rN1QB7pq0rVcxA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-08 16:26       ` Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)
     [not found]         ` <EF66BBEB19BADC41AC8CCF5F684F07FC4F6F31A6-nsZYYkk5h5QQ2GdVW7+PtKBKnGwkPULj@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-08 17:19           ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]             ` <CAL1RGDU+4CSJyF0TAfAv-YYcjA4FG+XNeg5pGCHPeW5iqhvwpA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-08 17:26               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                 ` <20130708172621.GA3852-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-10 12:14                   ` Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)
     [not found]                     ` <EF66BBEB19BADC41AC8CCF5F684F07FC4F70BF83-nsZYYkk5h5QQ2GdVW7+PtKBKnGwkPULj@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-15 14:20                       ` Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)
     [not found]                         ` <EF66BBEB19BADC41AC8CCF5F684F07FC4F71CB0F-nsZYYkk5h5QQ2GdVW7+PtKBKnGwkPULj@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-30 16:44                           ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                             ` <0000014030779fed-e7bdfc9a-6714-4473-b093-4b247ab940b6-000000-p/GC64/jrecnJqMo6gzdpkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-30 17:21                               ` Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)
     [not found]                                 ` <EF66BBEB19BADC41AC8CCF5F684F07FC4F7883AD-nsZYYkk5h5QQ2GdVW7+PtKBKnGwkPULj@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-30 18:31                                   ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]                                     ` <0000014030d9bc3d-2916693b-9669-4017-a724-75b51c6dc3dc-000000-p/GC64/jrecnJqMo6gzdpkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-30 18:45                                       ` Atchley, Scott
     [not found]                                         ` <17370FDF-C64B-4D74-A848-79C1438E6283-1Heg1YXhbW8@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-30 18:47                                           ` Doug Ledford
2013-07-16  8:04                       ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                         ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373805AAB74-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-16 14:47                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                             ` <20130716144747.GA7304-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-16 17:11                               ` Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)
     [not found]                                 ` <EF66BBEB19BADC41AC8CCF5F684F07FC4F7211E6-nsZYYkk5h5QQ2GdVW7+PtKBKnGwkPULj@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-17  0:16                                   ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                     ` <CAL1RGDWKmecLXsqphwdP9XG=4Y=65Z_ACSdRBhEqVQb6Q4LrUg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-17 17:57                                       ` Doug Ledford [this message]
     [not found]                                         ` <51E6DB11.9050906-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-05 18:48                                           ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                             ` <CAL1RGDVuuQU-NZ2o+T0_kuxPMRadGPeqzO1J9iuW=DRuFMMYfQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-05 19:02                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                 ` <20130805190238.GA14356-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-05 20:06                                                   ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                                     ` <CAL1RGDWPHWzAWx7XXxGGCVQQ1xHU6QDVybrttnvoqUPrzqzvWA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-05 22:22                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                         ` <20130805222250.GA4486-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-05 22:35                                                           ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                                             ` <CAL1RGDW5V_N62LSZa1YRG1JA1fOf+nbQwBG1xQ7yYiuF6z0fMw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-05 22:43                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-07-17  4:06                                   ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                                     ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373805AECC0-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-17 18:12                                       ` Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)
     [not found]                                         ` <EF66BBEB19BADC41AC8CCF5F684F07FC4F725B8C-nsZYYkk5h5QQ2GdVW7+PtKBKnGwkPULj@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-17 21:41                                           ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                                             ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373805B941D-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-17 21:44                                               ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                                 ` <51E71023.2060006-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-18  2:32                                                   ` Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)
     [not found]                                                     ` <EF66BBEB19BADC41AC8CCF5F684F07FC4F727D11-nsZYYkk5h5QQ2GdVW7+PtKBKnGwkPULj@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-18 16:50                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                         ` <20130718165003.GB9237-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-23 13:26                                                           ` Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)
     [not found]                                                             ` <EF66BBEB19BADC41AC8CCF5F684F07FC4F749B82-nsZYYkk5h5QQ2GdVW7+PtKBKnGwkPULj@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-30 12:59                                                               ` Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-06-20 14:21 Jeff Squyres
     [not found] ` <1371738080-18537-1-git-send-email-jsquyres-FYB4Gu1CFyUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-20 16:34   ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]     ` <51C32EFC.8060202-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-20 16:42       ` Doug Ledford
2013-06-20 16:53       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]         ` <20130620165305.GA19800-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-20 20:31           ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]             ` <51C36692.7000507-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-20 21:14               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                 ` <20130620211454.GA2434-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-21  0:31                   ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                     ` <51C39ECB.3040006-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-21  1:03                       ` Hefty, Sean
2013-06-21  6:36                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                         ` <20130621063648.GA27963-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-21 17:36                           ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                             ` <51C48F01.5030103-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-21 18:26                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                 ` <20130621182617.GA17700-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-21 20:57                                   ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                                     ` <51C4BE25.9000501-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-21 21:20                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                         ` <20130621212016.GA10637-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-21 21:56                                           ` Hefty, Sean
2013-06-22 13:13                                           ` Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)

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