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From: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche-HInyCGIudOg@public.gmane.org>
To: Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Sagi Grimberg
	<sagig-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>,
	Or Gerlitz <or.gerlitz-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Roland Dreier <roland-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Hefty Sean <sean.hefty-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Sagi Grimberg <sagig-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-rdma <linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Mike Christie <michaelc-hcNo3dDEHLuVc3sceRu5cw@public.gmane.org>,
	Oren Duer <oren-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: linux rdma 3.14 merge plans
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 11:07:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52EA2465.8010907@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52EA0AFA.40100-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>

On 01/30/14 09:19, Or Gerlitz wrote:
> On 29/01/2014 19:56, Bart Van Assche wrote:
>> On 01/29/14 16:06, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
>>> Didn't understand why should it matter where the copy is done
>>> (iser/block)?
>> In the Linux kernel community it is considered important to avoid code
>> duplication. Hence the proposal to keep code that copies data buffers
>> in the block layer core and to avoid that such functionality has to be
>> reimplemented in every block driver or SCSI LLD.
> 
> Thanks for narrowing this down, I see your point, however the solution I
> propose if to remove this copy altogether... for those rare cases where
> fast-registration can't be done -- in SRP I think the code goes to
> indirect mode under which there no copy (right?). As for iSER, we will
> add to our TODO enhancing the code to avoid using bounce-buffer, few
> designs might be possible, one way would be to create set of
> FMRS/Fast-reg element which are capable to map chunks which are <
> PAGE_SIZE, e.g in the order of single block, and hence can map what ever
> arbitrary set of blocks provided by the upper layer.

I'm not sure how important this issue is on x86 systems since the page
size on these systems is 4 KB and since many applications use an I/O
size >= 4 KB. So if the I/O buffers are aligned on page boundaries the
buffer memory can be registered as a single memory region without having
to copy any data. However, on PPC systems, which have a page size of 64
KB, if e.g. a database issues a readv() or writev() call or if an I/O
scheduler coalesces several small I/O requests into a single I/O request
the data buffer of these I/O requests is discontiguous. I think it is
important that data copying can be avoided for such I/O requests.

By the way, is it documented somewhere what the alignment requirements
are for FMR and FR requests ? As far as I can see the mlx4 driver
requires page alignment for FMR requests but not for FR requests (see
e.g. mlx4_check_fmr()). I haven't found a page aligment requirement in
e.g. ehca_fmr_check_page_list(). Does this mean that alignment
restrictions for FMR are HCA-dependent ? Would it be a good idea to add
an attribute in e.g. ib_device_attr that allows ULP drivers to retrieve
FMR alignment requirements in a generic way ?

Thanks,

Bart.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-01-30 10:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-07 21:02 linux rdma 3.14 merge plans Or Gerlitz
     [not found] ` <CAJZOPZ+4yQ-sT=ks7+eiJjkxOjy5w=BmG16JVcUPiuVsof7qEA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-08  0:51   ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]     ` <CAG4TOxOMmvFWnkU3DBn33rscEKh2_YfbUCKY=iY8PCVN3+nEsA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-08  8:52       ` Sagi Grimberg
2014-01-08  9:15       ` Or Gerlitz
2014-01-08  9:37       ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]         ` <52CD1C68.4050406-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-13 20:32           ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
     [not found]             ` <1389645171.5567.459.camel-XoQW25Eq2zviZyQQd+hFbcojREIfoBdhmpATvIKMPHk@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-15 21:15               ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
     [not found]                 ` <CAG4TOxNa32sLxifPx_f8sW04B_qSh01WWfWjRvam6fjvFLDXSQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                   ` <CAG4TOxNa32sLxifPx_f8sW04B_qSh01WWfWjRvam6fjvFLDXSQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-16 21:14                     ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
     [not found]                       ` <1389906852.5567.668.camel-XoQW25Eq2zviZyQQd+hFbcojREIfoBdhmpATvIKMPHk@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-16 21:37                         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]                           ` <20140116213717.GA24718-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-16 21:42                             ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                               ` <CAJZOPZ+75yOyxrcu4s=dSxv4Ya27UyotbRWLqwC3bbh3wieihg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-16 21:58                                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-01-16 22:06                                 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2014-01-17 22:02                         ` Martin K. Petersen
2014-01-18 21:42                         ` Roland Dreier
2014-01-19  3:42                           ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2014-01-19 11:20                             ` sagi grimberg
     [not found]                               ` <52DBB4F1.4020400-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-20 13:56                                 ` Or Gerlitz
2014-01-21 22:00                                   ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                                     ` <CAJZOPZLuz-Z59agBd0Q9J2=sSG-F+Y8MrJkoGbtiF5M+CnKU1g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-22  0:43                                       ` Roland Dreier
2014-01-22  4:10                                         ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                                         ` <CAG4TOxPLEfyWsUDf4_371u=_=tOgW2v5J4zSz8xx73DfziZOZg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-22  7:27                                           ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2014-02-07  0:02                                             ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2014-02-07  0:04                                               ` Roland Dreier
2014-02-25 21:10                                                 ` Or Gerlitz
2014-03-05  9:54                                                 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
     [not found]                                                   ` <1394013249.19539.17.camel-XoQW25Eq2zviZyQQd+hFbcojREIfoBdhmpATvIKMPHk@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-05 15:18                                                     ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                                       ` <CAG4TOxNRkAUH5Jsd67--ydWtUJqE1=pnVSuorgn4vNQiuYx1wg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-05 15:38                                                         ` Or Gerlitz
2014-03-05 19:03                                                       ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
     [not found]                                                         ` <1394046218.20601.12.camel-XoQW25Eq2zviZyQQd+hFbcojREIfoBdhmpATvIKMPHk@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-07  5:07                                                           ` Devesh Sharma
     [not found]                                                             ` <EE7902D3F51F404C82415C4803930ACD3FDDD50E-DWYeeINJQrxExQ8dmkPuX0M9+F4ksjoh@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-07 19:31                                                               ` Roland Dreier
     [not found]                                                                 ` <CAL1RGDXRCZafDcFsbiG823VQ7_AVZeZqxY8JEaj=oCYRteAw_A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-10  9:00                                                                   ` Devesh Sharma
2014-04-01 21:31                                           ` Or Gerlitz
2014-01-22  9:48                                         ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                           ` <52DF93D3.6030509-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-28 21:02                                             ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                                               ` <CAJZOPZLBECYXrpp0GY0uUvyf+XbiLHhXdVukniPXD4AWZObymg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-29 14:13                                                 ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]                                                   ` <52E90C81.9040800-HInyCGIudOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-29 15:06                                                     ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                                       ` <52E91906.70802-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-29 16:34                                                         ` Or Gerlitz
2014-01-29 17:56                                                         ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]                                                           ` <52E940B2.3070901-HInyCGIudOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-30  8:19                                                             ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                                                               ` <52EA0AFA.40100-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-30 10:07                                                                 ` Bart Van Assche [this message]
     [not found]                                                                   ` <52EA2465.8010907-HInyCGIudOg@public.gmane.org>
2014-01-30 10:38                                                                     ` Or Gerlitz
2014-01-20 12:40       ` Bart Van Assche

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