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From: Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Haggai Eran <haggaie-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Liran Liss <liranl-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Guy Shapiro <guysh-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Shachar Raindel <raindel-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Yotam Kenneth <yotamke-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 for-next 00/12] Add network namespace support in the RDMA-CM
Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 19:21:11 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55674077.5040707@mellanox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1432822057.114391.26.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On 5/28/2015 5:07 PM, Doug Ledford wrote:
> You would think that, but sometimes important information comes from
> totally different places.  See mine and Jason's comments back and forth
> in the SRIOV thread started by Or.
>
> Long story short:
>
> ip link add dev ib0 name ib0.1 type ipoib
>
> is totally broken on at least all Red Hat OSes.  It will require
> reworking of the network scripts and NetworkManager assumptions to make
> it work.  It will also break DHCP on the interface as pkey/guid are the
> only items that uniquely identify DHCP clients.  The net result of our
> talks was that it is likely that each interface on the same pkey will
> require an alias GUID per child interface in order to keep things workable.
>

Doug,

Just to make sure we're on the same page, you're saying that the IPoIB 
DHCP scheme (client + server) used on RH product uses Client-ID which is 
eight byte long or 20 byte long the four upper bytes masked out (which 
of them?) and hence is broken when multiple entities use the same ID.

Anything else except for that (you said "reworking of the network 
scripts and NetworkManager assumptions to make it work")??

OTOH we realized that the implementation for same PKEY IPoIB childs 
which exist for a while is broken with the RH DHCP scheme and should be 
enhanced.   OTOH these childs can serve as nice building blocks for 
IPoIB containers or virtio-IPoIB scheme.

Note that out of the eleven patches that make the series, only ONE 
relates directly to IPoIB, the rest are either applicable to all the 
transport supported by the RDMA stack, or to IPoIB + RoCE.

Under some assumptions and changes people can test it with DHCP scheme 
different from RH or with non-DHCP based IP address assignment scheme.

So we have a very nice effort and work done by developers, to bring RDMA 
into containers, accompanied by reviewers providing lots of their brain 
power to make it robust.

I don't see why we should stop the whole RDMA containers support train 
just b/c we found out the IPoIB DHCP bug which was there for few years 
before this effort started.

How about let this series to go after the rest of the reviewers comments 
are addressed, s.t under IPoIB it will work on small set of 
environments, while with macvlan based RoCE support to be introduced 
later it will work on wider set of environments.

Or.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-28 16:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-17  5:50 [PATCH v4 for-next 00/12] Add network namespace support in the RDMA-CM Haggai Eran
2015-05-17  5:50 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 02/12] IB/addr: Pass network namespace as a parameter Haggai Eran
2015-05-17  5:50 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 03/12] IB/core: Find the network namespace matching connection parameters Haggai Eran
     [not found]   ` <1431841868-28063-4-git-send-email-haggaie-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 18:26     ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]       ` <20150519182616.GF18675-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-20 14:48         ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-17  5:51 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 04/12] IB/ipoib: Return IPoIB devices " Haggai Eran
     [not found]   ` <1431841868-28063-5-git-send-email-haggaie-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 18:28     ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]       ` <20150519182810.GG18675-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-20 15:17         ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-19 23:55     ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]       ` <20150519235502.GB26634-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-21  5:33         ` Haggai Eran
     [not found]           ` <555D6E41.10606-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-21  5:48             ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]               ` <CAJ3xEMjN+o=vC4abAeG5EuOo3Y1gSyh1qPDseA_aaYmoLWAunw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-21  6:33                 ` Haggai Eran
     [not found]                   ` <555D7C4A.2060708-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-21 10:31                     ` Or Gerlitz
2015-05-21 17:43             ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]               ` <20150521174336.GA6771-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 11:51                 ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-28 15:45                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-05-21  5:48         ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-17  5:51 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 05/12] IB/cm: Share listening CM IDs Haggai Eran
2015-05-19 18:35   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]     ` <20150519183545.GH18675-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 22:35       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]         ` <20150519223502.GA26324-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-21  8:08           ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-21 17:54             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-05-21  7:07       ` Haggai Eran
     [not found] ` <1431841868-28063-1-git-send-email-haggaie-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-17  5:50   ` [PATCH v4 for-next 01/12] IB/core: Add rwsem to allow reading device list or client list Haggai Eran
2015-05-17  5:51   ` [PATCH v4 for-next 06/12] IB/cm: Expose service ID in request events Haggai Eran
2015-05-17  5:51   ` [PATCH v4 for-next 07/12] IB/cma: Refactor RDMA IP CM private-data parsing code Haggai Eran
2015-05-17  5:51   ` [PATCH v4 for-next 08/12] IB/cma: Add compare_data checks to the RDMA CM module Haggai Eran
2015-05-17  5:51   ` [PATCH v4 for-next 12/12] IB/ucma: Take the network namespace from the process Haggai Eran
2015-05-17  5:51 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 09/12] IB/cma: Separate port allocation to network namespaces Haggai Eran
2015-05-17  5:51 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 10/12] IB/cma: Share CM IDs between namespaces Haggai Eran
2015-05-17  5:51 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 11/12] IB/cma: Add support for network namespaces Haggai Eran
2015-05-19 14:30 ` [PATCH v4 for-next 00/12] Add network namespace support in the RDMA-CM Yann Droneaud
2015-05-19 14:54   ` Haggai Eran
     [not found]     ` <555B4EBE.7010900-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 16:39       ` Parav Pandit
2015-05-19 18:01         ` Haggai Eran
     [not found]           ` <1432058488417.98688-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 18:42             ` Parav Pandit
2015-05-19 18:38         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]           ` <20150519183843.GI18675-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 18:44             ` Parav Pandit
     [not found]               ` <CAGgvQNTXAWkQWzBBrQfk39GaCQ2ck63AhgURpYFFBPTbkpx4kg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19 19:20                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-05-26 13:34 ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]   ` <1432647280.28905.107.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-26 16:59     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-05-26 17:46       ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]         ` <1432662396.28905.157.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-26 18:47           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-05-28 13:22           ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-28 15:46             ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]               ` <20150528154633.GB2962-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-03 10:07                 ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-28 13:15       ` Haggai Eran
2015-05-26 17:55     ` Christian Benvenuti (benve)
2015-05-28 13:07     ` Haggai Eran
     [not found]       ` <55671309.6080303-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 14:07         ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]           ` <1432822057.114391.26.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 16:21             ` Or Gerlitz [this message]
     [not found]               ` <55674077.5040707-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 17:43                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                   ` <20150528174337.GA10448-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 18:22                     ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                       ` <1432837360.114391.35.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 19:05                         ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                           ` <CAJ3xEMh2T5-56rFxWVdct2uAZYW1ZrKivWfS45V-mvhAfwyGaA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-28 21:55                             ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                               ` <1432850150.114391.56.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-03 10:03                                 ` Haggai Eran
2015-06-03 16:14                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                     ` <20150603161447.GC12073-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-03 19:05                                       ` Or Gerlitz
2015-06-03 19:53                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                           ` <20150603195325.GC7902-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-03 20:07                                             ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                                               ` <CAJ3xEMiO+hEzOJ2oJ5G-mmBeaX4ZHvUyhNSAzsrRDui6dFjvCg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-03 21:45                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-06-04  9:41                                                   ` Haggai Eran
2015-06-04 16:06                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-06-03 23:48                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                   ` <20150603234811.GA15128-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-04  6:24                                                     ` Haggai Eran
     [not found]                                                       ` <556FEF25.80409-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-04 16:40                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                           ` <20150604164058.GB27699-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-08  7:52                                                             ` Haggai Eran
2015-06-08 16:53                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe

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