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From: Tom Talpey <tom-CLs1Zie5N5HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: 'Christoph Hellwig' <hch-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Sagi Grimberg
	<sagig-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe
	<jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>,
	Steve Wise
	<swise-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>,
	dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
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	Oren Duer <oren-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 1/5] RDMA/core: Transport-independent access flags
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 11:47:12 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55A52F00.3090905@talpey.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150714153619.GC11026-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>

On 7/14/2015 11:36 AM, 'Christoph Hellwig' wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 12:10:36PM +0300, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
>> Having an API that does FRMR/FMR/PHYS_MR is even worse from the ULP
>> PoV. If you expose an API that might schedule (PHYS_MR) it limits the
>> context that the caller is allowed to call in.
>>
>> I'm 100% against an registration API that *might* schedule.
>
> Oh, I had missed that PHYS_MR might sleep.  That might be the reasons
> why everyone is avoiding them despite Tom preferring them over FMR.

Any synchronous verb might sleep. They issue commands to the adapter
across the PCIe bus, and need to wait for the result. FMR does, too.
At least the work-request-based ones are explicit about waiting for
the completion.

Are you saying you want an API that does memory registration without
blocking AND without sending a work request to hardware, ever?



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-07-14 15:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-05 23:21 [PATCH V3 0/5] Transport-independent MRs Steve Wise
2015-07-05 23:22 ` [PATCH V3 1/5] RDMA/core: Transport-independent access flags Steve Wise
2015-07-06  5:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-07-06 14:23     ` Steve Wise
2015-07-07  8:58       ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
     [not found]   ` <20150705232158.12029.25472.stgit-PBeJgSbIpn97NCTnQtmixQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-06  7:09     ` Haggai Eran
     [not found]       ` <559A2991.3040304-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-06 14:29         ` Steve Wise
2015-07-07 14:17       ` Steve Wise
2015-07-07 14:34         ` Haggai Eran
2015-07-07 14:46           ` Steve Wise
2015-07-07 15:07             ` Haggai Eran
2015-07-06  7:53     ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-06 14:37       ` Steve Wise
2015-07-06 16:17         ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-06 16:55           ` Steve Wise
2015-07-07  9:00           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]             ` <20150707090001.GB11736-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-07  9:14               ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                 ` <559B9891.8060907-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-07 14:05                   ` Steve Wise
2015-07-07 16:17                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                       ` <20150707161751.GA623-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-07 16:27                         ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                           ` <559BFE03.4020709-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-07 21:36                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-08  7:29                               ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                 ` <559CD174.4040901-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-08  8:13                                   ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
     [not found]                                     ` <20150708081320.GB24203-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-08 10:05                                       ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                         ` <559CF5E8.6080000-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-08 10:20                                           ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
     [not found]                                             ` <20150708102035.GA28421-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-08 11:08                                               ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                                 ` <559D0498.9050809-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-08 17:14                                                   ` Hefty, Sean
2015-07-09  8:46                                                     ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-09 13:52                                                       ` Chuck Lever
2015-07-10 19:34                                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-07-12  7:49                                                           ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-13 16:50                                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-14  8:06                                                               ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                                                 ` <55A4C2FA.9060707-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14 12:24                                                                   ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]                                                                     ` <55A4FF93.4090406-CLs1Zie5N5HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14 13:21                                                                       ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-23  0:43                                                                       ` Hefty, Sean
2015-07-08 19:08                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                   ` <20150708190842.GB11740-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-08 20:32                                     ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
     [not found]                                       ` <20150708203205.GA21847-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-08 20:37                                         ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2015-07-09  8:47                                         ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-09  0:03                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                         ` <20150709000337.GE16812-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-09  8:00                                           ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2015-07-09  8:58                                           ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-09 22:18                                           ` Doug Ledford
2015-07-09 22:53                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-10 13:22                                               ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]                                                 ` <559FC710.1050307-CLs1Zie5N5HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-10 16:11                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-10 17:56                                                     ` Doug Ledford
2015-07-10 18:34                                                       ` Chuck Lever
2015-07-10 18:42                                                       ` Tom Talpey
     [not found]                                                         ` <55A01225.9000000-CLs1Zie5N5HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-10 19:54                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-10 20:48                                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                             ` <20150710195420.GA31500-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-10 22:33                                                               ` Doug Ledford
2015-07-11 10:17                                                               ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20150711101736.GA14741-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-13 16:57                                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-14  7:25                                                                     ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2015-07-14  9:05                                                                       ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-14 15:35                                                                         ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2015-07-14 17:26                                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                           ` <20150714172655.GB24403-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-15  7:10                                                                             ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-10 22:30                                                           ` Doug Ledford
2015-07-10 20:57                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                         ` <20150710205706.GA7883-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-10 22:27                                                           ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                                                             ` <20150710233417.GA8919@obsidianresearch.com>
     [not found]                                                               ` <20150710233417.GA8919-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-11  3:10                                                                 ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                                                                   ` <55A0891F.4050105-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-13 17:18                                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-13 22:23                                                                       ` Tom Talpey
2015-07-11 16:37                                                     ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                                       ` <CCB6E837-88FF-4DBB-976D-4CF56396A1A1-/Yg/VP3ZvrM@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-12 10:46                                                         ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                                           ` <55A24571.60902-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14 19:25                                                             ` Steve Wise
2015-07-14 19:29                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20150714192941.GA26292-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14 19:32                                                                   ` Steve Wise
2015-07-14 19:37                                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-14 19:55                                                                     ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2015-07-14 20:10                                                                       ` Steve Wise
     [not found]                                                                       ` <20150714195511.GB7716-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14 20:29                                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                           ` <20150714202943.GB26927-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14 20:40                                                                             ` Steve Wise
2015-07-14 20:44                                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <20150714204442.GD26927-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14 20:54                                                                                   ` Steve Wise
2015-07-14 20:59                                                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-14 20:50                                                                             ` Tom Talpey
2015-07-15  8:47                                                                             ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                                                               ` <55A61E38.20201-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-15 12:19                                                                                 ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <20150715121926.GB14993-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-15 19:17                                                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-15  6:50                                                                           ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
     [not found]                                                                             ` <20150715065057.GA22113-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-15 19:12                                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <20150715191257.GF23588-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-16  6:41                                                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-16  8:04                                                                                   ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
     [not found]                                                                                     ` <20150716080402.GC9093-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-16 16:13                                                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-14 20:46                                                                     ` Tom Talpey
2015-07-14 19:45                                                               ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20150714194512.GA25887-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14 19:57                                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-14 19:58                                                                   ` Steve Wise
2015-07-14 20:41                                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                       ` <20150714204145.GC26927-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14 20:51                                                                         ` Steve Wise
2015-07-14 21:01                                                                           ` Steve Wise
2015-07-14 21:14                                                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-23 18:53                                                                     ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                                                                       ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373A901C9A5-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-23 19:03                                                                         ` Steve Wise
2015-07-23 23:30                                                                           ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                                                                             ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373A901DB80-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-23 23:53                                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <20150723235310.GA20537-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-24  0:18                                                                                   ` Hefty, Sean
2015-07-24  4:46                                                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-08 21:38                                   ` Tom Talpey
2015-07-08 23:36                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-09 11:02                                       ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                         ` <559E54AB.2010905-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-09 17:01                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-09 20:00                                             ` Tom Talpey
2015-07-09 21:16                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                             ` <20150709170142.GA21921-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-10  8:55                                               ` kernel memory registration (was: RDMA/core: Transport-independent access flags) Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                                 ` <559F8881.7070308-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-10 16:35                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-11 10:31                                                   ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
     [not found]                                                     ` <20150711103153.GC14741-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-13 16:46                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                         ` <20150713164652.GC23832-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14  8:24                                                           ` kernel memory registration Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                                             ` <55A4C73A.7080001-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14 17:24                                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-11 10:25                                             ` [PATCH V3 1/5] RDMA/core: Transport-independent access flags 'Christoph Hellwig'
2015-07-13 16:35                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-13 19:36                                               ` Tom Talpey
2015-07-13 20:15                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                   ` <20150713201538.GA11681-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14  9:10                                                     ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                                       ` <55A4D20C.2000904-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14 15:36                                                         ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
     [not found]                                                           ` <20150714153619.GC11026-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14 15:47                                                             ` Tom Talpey [this message]
2015-07-14 16:22                                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-14  7:37                                                 ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2015-07-14  9:22                                                   ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                                     ` <55A4D4C6.6040907-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-14 12:12                                                       ` Tom Talpey
2015-07-14 13:23                                                         ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-14 14:45                                                       ` Steve Wise
2015-07-14 15:40                                                       ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2015-07-08  8:11                     ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2015-07-06  7:58     ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]       ` <559A3536.3020807-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-06 14:39         ` Steve Wise
2015-07-05 23:22 ` [PATCH V3 2/5] RDMA/iser: Use transport independent MR allocation Steve Wise
     [not found] ` <20150705231831.12029.80307.stgit-PBeJgSbIpn97NCTnQtmixQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-05 23:22   ` [PATCH V3 3/5] RDMA/isert: " Steve Wise
2015-07-05 23:22   ` [PATCH V3 4/5] svcrdma: " Steve Wise
2015-07-05 23:22   ` [PATCH V3 5/5] xprtrdma: " Steve Wise
2015-07-06  5:25   ` [PATCH V3 0/5] Transport-independent MRs Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]     ` <20150706052542.GB1109-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-06 14:24       ` Steve Wise
2015-07-07  9:01         ` 'Christoph Hellwig'

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