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From: Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe
	<jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman
	<gregkh-hQyY1W1yCW8ekmWlsbkhG0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>,
	Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>,
	Sean Hefty <sean.hefty-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Hal Rosenstock
	<hal.rosenstock-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Eli Cohen <eli-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Sagi Grimberg <sagig-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: shrink struct ib_send_wr V4
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 19:52:05 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56380535.5040101@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151103001845.GA24206-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>

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On 11/02/2015 07:18 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 07:02:04PM -0500, Doug Ledford wrote:
> 
>> Because they are *scheduled* for removal.  If I simply didn't care if
>> they went away, then I wouldn't screw around with deprecating them or
>> tagging them to be removed, I'd just delete them.  Breaking them before
>> the scheduled removal time defeats that entire purpose.
> 
> You don't see in the compiles, but IIRC ipath is unusable after the
> PAT rework.

It shouldn't be.  I reviewed those changes and they looked right (given
the limitations).  All you needed was to boot with nopat on the kernel
command line to get the old kernel behavior and it would continue to
work as before, and it would print out a message telling you to do so if
you hadn't already.

> We've also been ripping out the ULP side of things that would let
> amso1100/ehca work in any meningful way with the kernel ULPs.

For amso1100, kernel ULPs has never been its target.  Didn't we only
recently got any support for iWARP in iSER?  And we never had it or will
have it in IPoIB or SRP/SRPT.  That only leaves RDS and NFSoRDMA.
RDS/RDMA upstream has been a mess for a long time.  That only leaves
NFSoRDMA.  So it's fair to say amso1100 has been primarily a user space
RDMA device, not a kernel ULP device.

For ehca, that's another matter entirely.  I gave up trying to work with
that driver a long time ago.  If IBM tells me something is broke, I'll
review their patches to fix it, but as I have no working hardware, and
only every had hardware I couldn't get working in our environment, there
isn't much I can do about it.

> The reason I lobbied to get rid of them is specifically because they
> don't work and maintaining them (ie the driver and the single-use ULP
> codepath side) is a huge pain. Keeping them around and keeping them
> compiling defeats the entire point. Just delete them, we don't need to
> wait for 4.6.

That's not true.  User space continues to work, and amso1100 shouldn't
be greatly negatively impacted by recent changes.  Nor should ipath.

-- 
Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-11-03  0:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-13 15:13 shrink struct ib_send_wr V4 Christoph Hellwig
     [not found] ` <1442157215-22341-1-git-send-email-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-13 15:13   ` [PATCH 2/2] IB: remove xrc_remote_srq_num from struct ib_send_wr Christoph Hellwig
2015-09-29  8:58   ` shrink struct ib_send_wr V4 Haggai Eran
2015-10-11 13:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-10-29  2:25   ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]     ` <5631839B.30300-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-29  2:57       ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]         ` <56318B37.20207-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-29 11:51           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]             ` <20151029115114.GA18466-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2015-10-29 14:38               ` Doug Ledford
2015-11-01 12:10               ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                 ` <56360148.8060608-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-01 18:06                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]                     ` <20151101180609.GC13943-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-02 23:20                       ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                         ` <5637EFC8.4010300-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-02 23:37                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]                             ` <20151102233726.GA18251-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-03  0:02                               ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                                 ` <5637F97C.5090205-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-03  0:18                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                     ` <20151103001845.GA24206-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-03  0:49                                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-11-03  0:52                                       ` Doug Ledford [this message]
     [not found]                                         ` <56380535.5040101-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-03  1:28                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                             ` <20151103012821.GA24650-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-03  2:03                                               ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                                                 ` <563815F7.2090003-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-03  4:16                                                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]                                                     ` <20151103041614.GA14023-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-04 15:00                                                       ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                                                         ` <563A1D96.2050507-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-04 17:16                                                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]                                                             ` <20151104171620.GA8504-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-04 17:40                                                               ` Doug Ledford
2015-11-03  4:38                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-11-03  0:49                                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]                                     ` <20151103004922.GA22926-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-03  3:14                                       ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                                         ` <5638267E.3020408-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-03  4:22                                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-11-03 16:59                               ` Chuck Lever
     [not found]                                 ` <D8B3250B-37D1-449B-BFA2-C4133C197AC5-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-03 17:43                                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman

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