From: Tom Talpey <tom-CLs1Zie5N5HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe
<jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Sagi Grimberg <sagig-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/3] svcrdma: Use device rdma_read_access_flags
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 16:00:43 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56425AFB.30202@talpey.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151110182546.GI12667-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
On 11/10/2015 1:25 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 04:04:32AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 01:46:40PM +0200, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/11/2015 13:41, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>> Oh, and while we're at it. Can someone explain why we're even
>>>> using rdma_read_chunk_frmr for IB? It seems to work around the
>>>> fact tat iWarp only allow a single RDMA READ SGE, but it's used
>>>> whenever the device has IB_DEVICE_MEM_MGT_EXTENSIONS, which seems
>>>> wrong.
>>>
>>> I think Steve can answer it better than I can. I think that it is
>>> just to have a single code path for both IB and iWARP. I agree that
>>> the condition seems wrong and for small transfers rdma_read_chunk_frmr
>>> is really a performance loss.
>>
>> Well, the code path already exists, but only is used fi
>> IB_DEVICE_MEM_MGT_EXTENSIONS isn't set. Below is an untested patch
>> that demonstrates how I think svcrdma should setup the reads. Note
>> that this also allows to entirely remove it's allphys MR.
>>
>> Note that as a followon this would also allow to remove the
>> non-READ_W_INV code path from rdma_read_chunk_frmr as a future
>> step.
>
> I like this, my only comment is we should have a rdma_cap for this
> behavior, rdma_cap_needs_rdma_read_mr(pd) or something?
Windows NDKPI has this, it's the oh-so-succinctly-named flag
NDK_ADAPTER_FLAG_RDMA_READ_SINK_NOT_REQUIRED. The ULP is free
to ignore it and pass the NDK_MR_FLAG_RDMA_READ_SINK flag anyway,
the provider is expected to ignore it if not needed.
>
>> + if (rdma_protocol_iwarp(dev, newxprt->sc_cm_id->port_num)) {
>
> Use here
>
>> + /*
>> + * iWARP requires remote write access for the data sink, and
>> + * only supports a single SGE for RDMA_READ requests, so we'll
>> + * have to use a memory registration for each RDMA_READ.
>> + */
>> + if (!(dev->device_cap_flags &
>> IB_DEVICE_MEM_MGT_EXTENSIONS)) {
>
> Lets enforce this in the core, if rdma_cap_needs_rdma_read_mr is set
> the the device must also set IB_DEVICE_MEM_MGT_EXTENSIONS, check at
> device creation time.
>
>> + } else if (rdma_ib_or_roce(dev, newxprt->sc_cm_id->port_num)) {
>> + /*
>> + * For IB or RoCE life is easy, no unsafe write access is
>> + * required and multiple SGEs are supported, so we don't need
>> + * to use MRs.
>> + */
>> + newxprt->sc_reader = rdma_read_chunk_lcl;
>> + } else {
>> + /*
>> + * Neither iWarp nor IB-ish, we're out of luck.
>> + */
>> goto errout;
>
> No need for the else, !rdma_cap_needs_rdma_read_mr means pd->local_dma_lkey is okay
> to use.
Hmm, agreed, but it must still be acceptable to perform a registration
instead of using the local_dma_lkey. As mentioned earlier, there are
scatter limits and other implications for all-physical addressing that
an upper layer may choose to avoid.
Tom.
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Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-10 10:44 [PATCH RFC 0/3] Introduce device attribute rdma_read_access_flags Sagi Grimberg
[not found] ` <1447152255-28231-1-git-send-email-sagig-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-10 10:44 ` [PATCH RFC 1/3] IB/core: Expose a device attribute for rdma_read access flags Sagi Grimberg
[not found] ` <1447152255-28231-2-git-send-email-sagig-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-10 11:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20151110112537.GA8991-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-10 11:36 ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-11-10 11:51 ` Yann Droneaud
[not found] ` <1447156270.7089.3.camel-RlY5vtjFyJ3QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-10 12:28 ` Sagi Grimberg
[not found] ` <5641E2D1.8070209-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-10 12:39 ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-11-10 12:36 ` Tom Talpey
[not found] ` <5641E4C9.7000206-CLs1Zie5N5HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-10 12:42 ` Sagi Grimberg
[not found] ` <5641E644.7080101-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-10 13:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20151110130648.GA10682-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-10 13:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20151110134147.GA12814-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-10 18:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20151110183627.GJ12667-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-11 8:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-11 9:07 ` Sagi Grimberg
[not found] ` <56430542.5090008-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-11 10:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-10 18:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-11-10 18:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20151110180156.GE12667-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-11 8:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20151111080837.GA14662-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-11 9:09 ` Sagi Grimberg
[not found] ` <564305AF.3020903-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-11 10:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-10 10:44 ` [PATCH RFC 2/3] svcrdma: Use device rdma_read_access_flags Sagi Grimberg
[not found] ` <1447152255-28231-3-git-send-email-sagig-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-10 11:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20151110113839.GA32523-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-10 11:42 ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-11-10 17:03 ` Chuck Lever
2015-11-10 11:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20151110114145.GA2810-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-10 11:46 ` Sagi Grimberg
[not found] ` <5641D920.5000409-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-10 12:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20151110120432.GA8230-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-10 14:34 ` Chuck Lever
[not found] ` <F60E8BA6-D728-44E4-9331-0C23AB96E634-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-10 15:16 ` Tom Talpey
2015-11-10 18:25 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20151110182546.GI12667-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-10 21:00 ` Tom Talpey [this message]
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2015-11-10 21:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20151110211716.GA21631-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-10 21:30 ` Tom Talpey
[not found] ` <564261EF.4000008-CLs1Zie5N5HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-10 23:01 ` Chuck Lever
[not found] ` <54CF0111-E9C4-4196-BF92-7E134A6A329A-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-10 23:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20151110235551.GA12795-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-11 8:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-11 9:28 ` Sagi Grimberg
[not found] ` <56430A20.6040600-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-11 16:19 ` Chuck Lever
[not found] ` <D4228973-6DFA-4181-9848-41BFE8E75200-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-11 16:29 ` Sagi Grimberg
[not found] ` <56436CDB.6090305-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-11 20:50 ` Chuck Lever
2015-11-11 9:25 ` Sagi Grimberg
[not found] ` <56430972.8080703-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-11 17:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-11-11 8:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20151111080225.GA31508-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-11 17:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-11-10 16:12 ` Steve Wise
2015-11-10 10:44 ` [PATCH RFC 3/3] RDS_IW: " Sagi Grimberg
[not found] ` <1447152255-28231-4-git-send-email-sagig-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-10 11:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20151110112638.GB8991-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-10 11:35 ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-11-10 11:31 ` [PATCH RFC 0/3] Introduce device attribute rdma_read_access_flags Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20151110113141.GA23093-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-10 11:40 ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-11-10 16:18 ` Steve Wise
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