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From: Hal Rosenstock <hal-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
To: "Wan, Kaike" <kaike.wan-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Hefty,
	Sean" <sean.hefty-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] Ibacm: default pkey for partitioned fabrics
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2015 08:45:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56683080.1090801@dev.mellanox.co.il> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3F128C9216C9B84BB6ED23EF16290AFB185810A2-8k97q/ur5Z2krb+BlOpmy7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>

On 12/9/2015 8:24 AM, Wan, Kaike wrote:
>> From: Hal Rosenstock [mailto:hal-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 7:50 AM
>> To: Wan, Kaike; Hefty, Sean
>> Cc: linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] Ibacm: default pkey for partitioned fabrics
>>
>> On 12/8/2015 12:33 PM, kaike.wan-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org wrote:
>>> From: Kaike Wan <kaike.wan-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
>>>
>>> In an insecure IB fabric, the default pkey in a port is 0xffff, where
>>> each node is allowed to talk to any other node in the fabric,
>>> including the SA node. However, in a secure fabric, to limit member
>>> access, not all nodes can have the full-member default pkey 0xffff. A
>>> typical configuration is to let SA node have pkey 0xffff while all
>>> other nodes have pkey 0x7fff; in addition, each node can be assigned
>>> some other full-member pkeys, such as
>>> 0x8001 and 0x8002, so that it can be assigned to different partitions.
>>> In this case, each node can access SA, and yet limits its other access
>>> to only those nodes in its assigned partitions. In such a secure
>>> fabric, however, ibacm will not work by interpreting "default" in its
>>> default address file as 0xffff.
>>>
>>> To solve the problem, this patch introduces the following priority to
>>> interpret default pkey:
>>> 1. Find the first non-management full-member pkey; 2. If it fails,
>>> find pkey 0xffff; 3. If pkey 0xffff is not available, use the first
>>> pkey.
>>> This approach will work in both securely and insecurely partitions
>>> fabrics.
>>
>> Shouldn't the pkey to be used for such interACM communication be
>> configured ?
> Yes. The purpose of this patch is only to make a secure system work out of box (default configuration). When a specific pkey is given in the ibacm_addr.cfg file, there will be no need to interpret the "default" pkey.
> 
>> First full member pkey is non-deterministic. Isn't it the case that
>> it may not include proper set of ACMs to communicate with ?
> 
> This is only for the default configuration, where a reasonable assumption is that members of an intended 
> partition (group of ports) will all have the same full-member pkey.

Yes, but it may not be first (lowest index) pkey in table of different
ports.

> One could argue that a port could have two or more full-member non-management pkeys because
> it is assigned to multiple partitions. 

Yes, that's a perfectly valid configuration.

> In this case, the port will only join only one multicast group, not all the multicast groups. The reply is 
> that the default ibacm_addr.cfg have only one endpoint with pkey "default" anyway.

In this case, the non default partitions are not useful for ACM and all
ACMs need to share "default" partition.

> To make it really work, one needs to edit ibacm_addr.cfg.

It may work without config depending on a number of factors but can
cause issues to be debugged.

Only sure way is config :-(

-- Hal

> Kaike
> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-12-09 13:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-08 17:33 [PATCH 1/1] Ibacm: default pkey for partitioned fabrics kaike.wan-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w
     [not found] ` <1449595982-20781-1-git-send-email-kaike.wan-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-08 21:21   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]     ` <20151208212133.GC14378-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09  0:26       ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]         ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AAFE7BE2-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 12:51           ` Hal Rosenstock
2015-12-09 12:51       ` Hal Rosenstock
     [not found]         ` <566823E2.5090504-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 17:39           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-12-09 13:07       ` Wan, Kaike
     [not found]         ` <3F128C9216C9B84BB6ED23EF16290AFB1858107A-8k97q/ur5Z2krb+BlOpmy7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 17:46           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-12-09 12:50   ` Hal Rosenstock
     [not found]     ` <56682392.5000302-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 13:24       ` Wan, Kaike
     [not found]         ` <3F128C9216C9B84BB6ED23EF16290AFB185810A2-8k97q/ur5Z2krb+BlOpmy7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 13:45           ` Hal Rosenstock [this message]
     [not found]             ` <56683080.1090801-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 13:55               ` Wan, Kaike
     [not found]                 ` <3F128C9216C9B84BB6ED23EF16290AFB185810D9-8k97q/ur5Z2krb+BlOpmy7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 14:06                   ` Hal Rosenstock
     [not found]                     ` <5668354B.4090903-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 14:27                       ` Wan, Kaike
     [not found]                         ` <3F128C9216C9B84BB6ED23EF16290AFB18581111-8k97q/ur5Z2krb+BlOpmy7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 14:36                           ` Hal Rosenstock
     [not found]                             ` <56683C6C.7070106-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 15:04                               ` Wan, Kaike
     [not found]                                 ` <3F128C9216C9B84BB6ED23EF16290AFB185811ED-8k97q/ur5Z2krb+BlOpmy7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 15:15                                   ` Hal Rosenstock
     [not found]                                     ` <5668458A.7020809-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 16:26                                       ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                                         ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AAFE7F21-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 16:49                                           ` Hal Rosenstock
     [not found]                                             ` <56685B98.5080803-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 17:06                                               ` Wan, Kaike
2015-12-09 17:13                                               ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                                                 ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AAFE7FB6-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 18:22                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                                     ` <20151209182212.GF31636-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 18:37                                                       ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                                                         ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AAFE8111-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 18:39                                                           ` Wan, Kaike
2015-12-09 21:35                                                       ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                                                         ` <56689E86.9080807-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 21:52                                                           ` Hefty, Sean

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