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From: Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Steve Wise
	<swise-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>,
	'Chuck Lever'
	<chuck.lever-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Cc: "'ira.weiny'" <ira.weiny-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	'Christoph Hellwig' <hch-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	'Jason Gunthorpe'
	<jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>,
	'Or Gerlitz' <gerlitz.or-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	'Or Gerlitz' <ogerlitz-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	'Sagi Grimberg'
	<sagig-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: device attr cleanup (was: Handle mlx4 max_sge_rd correctly)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 12:17:28 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5669B3A8.9090801@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <004f01d13365$45535e20$cffa1a60$@opengridcomputing.com>

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On 12/10/2015 11:10 AM, Steve Wise wrote:
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: linux-rdma-owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org [mailto:linux-rdma-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Lever
>> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 10:08 AM
>> To: linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
>> Cc: ira.weiny; Christoph Hellwig; Jason Gunthorpe; Or Gerlitz; Steve Wise; Or Gerlitz; Sagi Grimberg; Doug Ledford
>> Subject: Re: device attr cleanup (was: Handle mlx4 max_sge_rd correctly)
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 10, 2015, at 3:27 AM, Sagi Grimberg <sagig-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Doug this is going to conflict with the rdmavt work.  So if you take this could
>>>> you respond on the list.
>>>
>>> It will also conflict with the iser remote invalidate series.
>>>
>>> Doug it would help if you share your plans so people can rebase
>>> accordingly.
>>
>> I would be remiss not to mention that it probably also
>> conflicts with the NFS server bi-directional RPC/RDMA
>> series.
>>
>> Invasive IB core changes like this clean up are especially
>> burdensome for me because NFS/RDMA changes do not normally
>> go through Doug's tree, so it takes extra co-ordination.
>>
>> Here is a modest proposal. An obvious way to split the
>> device attr cleanup might go like this:
>>
>> a. first patch: add new fields to ib_device
>> b. then one patch for each provider to populate these fields
>> c. then one patch for each kernel ULP to use the new fields
>> d. then one patch for each provider to remove ->query_attr
>> e. last patch: remove ib_device_attr from the IB core
>>
>> That way each provider and ULP maintainer can review and
>> ack the portion of the changes that he or she is responsible
>> for, and it should help make it much easier to merge with
>> conflicting changes.
>>
>> Splitting it across more than one kernel release would be
>> helpful too, IMO. a. and b. can go into 4.5, c. into 4.6,
>> and d. and e. can go in any time after that.
>>
>> This adds more "process" but given the long chain of core
>> changes now in plan, we should acknowledge how disruptive
>> they will be, and come up with ways to make it possible to
>> get other work done while the core maintenance work
>> progresses.
>>
>>
> 
> The approach sounds reasonable to me.

This isn't a bad plan if we go that way.

Now here's where I get to speak my mind on things (since people have
been asking).


-- 
Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-10 17:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-08 21:00 device attr cleanup (was: Handle mlx4 max_sge_rd correctly) Or Gerlitz
     [not found] ` <CAJ3xEMj2EOxX1CiA93MPOsM-FdU9ijcWCYm9tObbkLqqja0PoA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-08 22:04   ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]     ` <566753E3.9060301-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-08 22:47       ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]         ` <CAJ3xEMhaEnv9He7N5q8fFsRzy_j27wdE6KWSFF39UzA680udwA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-08 22:59           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]             ` <20151208225940.GB27609-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-08 23:02               ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                 ` <20151208230244.GA10701-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-08 23:49                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-12-09  0:52                   ` ira.weiny
     [not found]                     ` <20151209005203.GD16976-W4f6Xiosr+yv7QzWx2u06xL4W9x8LtSr@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-09 18:42                       ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                         ` <20151209184235.GB4522-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-10  1:45                           ` ira.weiny
     [not found]                             ` <20151210014556.GA32059-W4f6Xiosr+yv7QzWx2u06xL4W9x8LtSr@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-10  8:27                               ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                 ` <56693758.90808-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-10 16:07                                   ` Chuck Lever
     [not found]                                     ` <93E3DE8A-0589-436D-A9A1-7EAC66B12739-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-10 16:10                                       ` Steve Wise
2015-12-10 17:17                                         ` Doug Ledford [this message]
2015-12-10 18:07                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                         ` <20151210180703.GC21482-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-10 23:30                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                                             ` <20151210233047.GB26009-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-11  0:49                                               ` Chuck Lever
     [not found]                                                 ` <09F96E8A-5E1E-4345-9069-C07108AF0BC7-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-11  6:54                                                   ` santosh.shilimkar-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA
2015-12-15 18:26                                                   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-12-23 21:31                                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                                     ` <20151223213116.GB29650-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-24  3:19                                                       ` device attr cleanup Doug Ledford
     [not found]                                                         ` <567B6433.4050907-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-05 16:46                                                           ` Steve Wise
2016-01-05 17:32                                                             ` Or Gerlitz
2015-12-15  0:19                               ` device attr cleanup (was: Handle mlx4 max_sge_rd correctly) Chuck Lever
2015-12-15 16:52                           ` santosh shilimkar
2015-12-08 23:13               ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                 ` <CAJ3xEMiEYgsxiL6zR-Dia3Rxwriye1WHcadTmUjU7zV=ide1LA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-08 23:15                   ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                     ` <CAJ3xEMgQNMtxgTKC0zaKgy-WGugf6KwT7Ys5h3_RbN_7qd2=tg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-15 19:03                       ` device attr cleanup Doug Ledford
     [not found]                         ` <56706414.8010807-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-16  5:53                           ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                             ` <5670FC5E.8070405-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-16 13:40                               ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                                 ` <567169B3.4040908-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-16 14:03                                   ` Or Gerlitz
2015-12-22  7:56                               ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                                 ` <CAJ3xEMiGOF79o1OSgxgk2tN+kY91uiNY5Aq+xu2U0Sur-htxpQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-22 19:19                                   ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                                     ` <5679A254.2040809-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-22 20:37                                       ` Doug Ledford
2015-12-09 18:44                   ` device attr cleanup (was: Handle mlx4 max_sge_rd correctly) Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                     ` <20151209184448.GC4522-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-10 17:46                       ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                         ` <5669BA8E.30200-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-10 23:29                           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                             ` <20151210232956.GA26009-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-11  4:56                               ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                                 ` <566A5792.9080102-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-11  6:14                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                                     ` <20151211061433.GB16513-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-11 17:10                                       ` Doug Ledford

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