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From: Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe
	<jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Yishai Hadas <yishaih-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	matanb-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org,
	majd-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org,
	talal-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 libibverbs 2/7] Add member functions to poll an extended CQ
Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 23:39:35 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <574BB5F7.2040201@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160530013507.GA19230-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>


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On 5/29/2016 9:35 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 07:47:54PM -0400, Doug Ledford wrote:
>>> You should really read the whole prior discussion
>>
>> If there's something in particular you'd like to point out, feel free. 
> 
> You can't ignore the mailing list and expect the rest of us to carry
> you along when you finally wake up..

Who said I ignored anything?  I didn't get your reference and needed you
to be more explicit.  You don't have to be a dick about it.

>> It doesn't have to be refs. If I recall correctly, the libmlx4
>> driver has to clear each cqe by changing the ownership status back
>> to the hardware or something like that. The release could just as
>> easily be setting that ownership on the cqe.
> 
> It also has to notify the hardware of the new ring head pointer which
> becomes more expensive with refs, especially on a lockable CQ.

It's no more expensive under what I just outlined.

>> The original bitmask version included a copy to an interim, variable
>> struct.  The idea here is that the cqe is an opaque pointer directly
>> to the hardware cqe. There would be no interim copies, just
>> retrieving the desired data directly from the cqe. Maybe I should
>> have called it a hcqe to be more clear.
> 
> Unless I'm mistaken, something much more more complex than just a
> simple offsets is required to handle the usual hcqe format used by our
> various drivers.

That's a valid point of discussion.

> I agree if you could describe the typical hcqe extractor in a format
> like offsets/mask/shift for all supported drivers then that might be
> better (unclear if an unaligned load/mask/shift is more expensive than
> a branch).  I believe I already explained that possibility earlier in
> the thread, and went further to suggest doing a direct HW optimized
> DIRECT option like libfabric has.

And that's what I want to explore.

> However, getting this wrong limits the future hardware we can support,
> which is scary, and the branch option clearly doesn't have that
> problem.
> 
> So the performance win would have to be substantial, IMHO.



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-05-30  3:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-29 14:51 [PATCH V4 libibverbs 0/7] Completion timestamping Yishai Hadas
     [not found] ` <1464533475-18949-1-git-send-email-yishaih-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-29 14:51   ` [PATCH V4 libibverbs 1/7] Add support for extended creating CQ verb Yishai Hadas
2016-05-29 14:51   ` [PATCH V4 libibverbs 2/7] Add member functions to poll an extended CQ Yishai Hadas
     [not found]     ` <1464533475-18949-3-git-send-email-yishaih-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-29 22:38       ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]         ` <574B6F71.9060808-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-29 23:30           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]             ` <20160529233009.GA12420-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-29 23:47               ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                 ` <8F7BC9E2-75EC-413B-BEBE-11450225AF06-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-30  1:35                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                     ` <20160530013507.GA19230-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-30  3:39                       ` Doug Ledford [this message]
2016-05-31 17:46                       ` Hefty, Sean
     [not found]                         ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AB05CA6D-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-31 18:06                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                             ` <20160531180608.GA21834-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-31 19:48                               ` Hefty, Sean
2016-05-30  7:47                   ` Matan Barak
     [not found]                     ` <4958edf4-7296-26c9-4cbe-8fab45be11a3-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-30 10:01                       ` Yishai Hadas
     [not found]                     ` <4e8befc4-aec5-a17d-24ce-40ff97d345da@redhat.com>
     [not found]                       ` <4e8befc4-aec5-a17d-24ce-40ff97d345da-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-30 13:50                         ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]                           ` <8708a378-4c48-df98-86a4-d210bbe690b5-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-30 15:01                             ` Matan Barak (External)
     [not found]                               ` <ecdbec76-31cd-74e1-25b4-7d60c3fa2af0-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-30 17:05                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-05-29 14:51   ` [PATCH V4 libibverbs 3/7] Add timestamp_mask and hca_core_clock to ibv_query_device_ex Yishai Hadas
2016-05-29 14:51   ` [PATCH V4 libibverbs 4/7] Add completion timestamp to poll_cq Yishai Hadas
2016-05-29 14:51   ` [PATCH V4 libibverbs 5/7] Create a single threaded CQ Yishai Hadas
2016-05-29 14:51   ` [PATCH V4 libibverbs 6/7] Add a verb that queries real time values from the HCA Yishai Hadas
2016-05-29 14:51   ` [PATCH V4 libibverbs 7/7] Add timestamp support in rc_pingpong Yishai Hadas

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