From: Zhu Yanjun <yanjun.zhu@linux.dev>
To: Chuck Lever <cel@kernel.org>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: NeilBrown <neilb@ownmail.net>, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
Olga Kornievskaia <okorniev@redhat.com>,
Dai Ngo <dai.ngo@oracle.com>, Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>,
linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/5] Add a bio_vec based API to core/rw.c
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2026 10:19:44 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6e3b0ade-6b45-4597-b065-9148c2c5e0ef@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d67a30a0-5ff1-4e31-a168-81f8b7bee97f@kernel.org>
在 2026/1/23 6:13, Chuck Lever 写道:
> On 1/23/26 1:04 AM, Zhu Yanjun wrote:
>> 在 2026/1/22 14:03, Chuck Lever 写道:
>>> From: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
>>>
>>> This series introduces a bio_vec based API for RDMA read and write
>>> operations in the RDMA core, eliminating unnecessary scatterlist
>>> conversions for callers that already work with bvecs.
>>>
>>> Current users of rdma_rw_ctx_init() must convert their native data
>>> structures into scatterlists. For subsystems like svcrdma that
>>> maintain data in bvec format, this conversion adds overhead both in
>>> CPU cycles and memory footprint. The new API accepts bvec arrays
>>> directly.
>>>
>>> For hardware RDMA devices, the implementation uses the IOVA-based
>>> DMA mapping API to reduce IOTLB synchronization overhead from O(n)
>>> per-page syncs to a single O(1) sync after all mappings complete.
>>> Software RDMA devices (rxe, siw) continue using virtual addressing.
>>>
>>> The series includes MR registration support for bvec arrays,
>>> enabling iWARP devices and the force_mr debug parameter. The MR
>>> path reuses existing ib_map_mr_sg() infrastructure by constructing
>>> a synthetic scatterlist from the bvec DMA addresses.
>>
>> Hi, Chuck Lever
>>
>> I’ve read through the patch series. As I understand it, the new bio_vec–
>> based RDMA read/write API allows callers that already operate on bvecs
>> (for example, svcrdma and potentially NVMe-oF) to avoid converting their
>> data into scatterlists, which should reduce CPU overhead and memory
>> usage in the data path.
>>
>> For hardware RDMA devices, the use of the IOVA-based DMA mapping API
>> also seems likely to reduce IOTLB synchronization overhead compared to
>> the existing per-page approach, while software devices (rxe, siw) retain
>> the current virtual-addressing model.
>>
>> Do you happen to have any performance or functional test results you
>> could share for this series, in particular:
>>
>> Hardware RDMA devices (e.g., latency, bandwidth, or CPU utilization
>> changes), and/or
>
> Functional tests with CX-5 Infiniband and NFS/RDMA show no regression.
>
> Performance tests are difficult to evaluate because I don't have a
> multi-client set-up here to drive a heavy workload, plus filesystems
> bottleneck long before the network transport does. The changes are
> designed to improve scalability (eg lower CPU utilization for the same
> workload and less interaction between host and RNIC) more than improve
> raw throughput. So far I have seen no throughput regression and perhaps
> a bit of improvement for tail latencies.
Thanks a lot. Based on the code changes, this patch series should
improve performance. Unfortunately, due to various limitations, we are
unable to provide performance test results.
Best Regards,
Zhu Yanjun
>
> The main purpose of the series, however, is part of an effort to enable
> kernel-wide replacement of the use of scatter-gather lists, which are
> technical debt. Socket APIs already support struct bio_vec.
>
>
>> Software RDMA devices such as rxe or siw?
>
> Software providers are not likely to see much change. However, you will
> need to test the series with your own preferred configuration and
> workload to assess performance and scalability delta.
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-01-24 18:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-01-22 22:03 [PATCH v3 0/5] Add a bio_vec based API to core/rw.c Chuck Lever
2026-01-22 22:03 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] RDMA/core: add bio_vec based RDMA read/write API Chuck Lever
2026-01-23 6:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-22 22:03 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] RDMA/core: use IOVA-based DMA mapping for bvec RDMA operations Chuck Lever
2026-01-23 6:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-23 15:04 ` Chuck Lever
2026-01-26 6:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-22 22:03 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] RDMA/core: add MR support for bvec-based " Chuck Lever
2026-01-23 6:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-23 15:06 ` Chuck Lever
2026-01-26 6:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-26 16:48 ` Chuck Lever
2026-01-23 16:47 ` Chuck Lever
2026-01-26 6:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-22 22:04 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] RDMA/core: add rdma_rw_max_sge() helper for SQ sizing Chuck Lever
2026-01-23 6:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-01-22 22:04 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] svcrdma: use bvec-based RDMA read/write API Chuck Lever
2026-01-23 6:04 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] Add a bio_vec based API to core/rw.c Zhu Yanjun
2026-01-23 14:13 ` Chuck Lever
2026-01-24 18:19 ` Zhu Yanjun [this message]
2026-01-26 17:13 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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