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From: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>,
	 "linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "serge@hallyn.com" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	 Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] RDMA/uverbs: Consider capability of the process that opens the file
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2025 15:00:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ldt2yur4.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250318112049.GC9311@nvidia.com> (Jason Gunthorpe's message of "Tue, 18 Mar 2025 08:20:49 -0300")

Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> writes:

> On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 03:43:07AM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
>
>> > I would say no, that is not our model in RDMA. The process that opens the file
>> > is irrelevant. We only check the current system call context for capability,
>> > much like any other systemcall.
>> >
>> Eric explained the motivation [1] and [2] for this fix is:
>> A lesser privilege process A opens the fd (currently caps are not
>> checked), passes the fd to a higher privilege process B.
>
>> And somehow let process B pass the needed capabilities check for
>> resource creation, after which process A continue to use the
>> resource without capability.
>
> Yes, I'd say that is fine within our model, and may even be desirable
> in some cases.
>
> We don't use a file descriptor linked security model, it is always
> secured based on the individual ioctl system call. The file descriptor
> is just a way to route the system calls.
>
> The "setuid cat" risk is interesting, but we are supposed to be
> preventing that by using ioctl, no 'cat' program is going to randomly
> execute ioctls on stdout.

I guess I see a few places where inifiniband uses ioctl.

There are also a lot of places where inifinband uses raw read/write on
file descriptors.  I think last time I looked infiniband wasn't even using
ioctl.

Now maybe using an ioctl is the best you can do at this point, because
of some backwards compatibility. 

> You would not say that if process B creates a CAP_NET_RAW socket FD
> and passes it to process A without CAP_NET_RAW then A should not be
> able to use the FD.

But that is exactly what the infiniband security check were are talking
about appears to be doing.  It is using the credentials of process A
and failing after it was passed by process B.

> The same principle holds here too, the object handles scoped inside
> the FD should have the same kind of security properties as a normal FD
> would.

Which is fine as far as I understand it is fine.  The creation check is
what we were talking about.

Taking from your example above.  If process B with CAP_NET_RAW creates a
FD for opening queue pairs and passes it to process A without
CAP_NET_RAW then A is not able to create queue pairs.

That is what the code in
drivers/infiniband/core/ubvers_cmd.c:create_qp() currenty says.

That is what has us confused.  Exactly the kind of thing you said should
not be happening is happening.

Eric


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-03-18 20:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-13  5:08 [PATCH] RDMA/uverbs: Consider capability of the process that opens the file Parav Pandit
2025-03-17 19:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-18  3:43   ` Parav Pandit
2025-03-18 11:20     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-18 12:30       ` Parav Pandit
2025-03-18 12:44         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-18 20:00       ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2025-03-18 22:57         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-04 14:53           ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-04 15:13             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-06 14:15               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-07 11:16                 ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-07 14:46                   ` sergeh
2025-04-20 12:30                     ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-20 13:41                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-20 17:31                         ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-07 16:12                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-08 14:44                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-04-21  3:13             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-21 11:04               ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-21 13:00                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-21 13:33                   ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-21 17:22                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-22 12:46                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-22 13:14                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-22 16:11                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-22 16:29                             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-23 12:41                               ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-23 14:46                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-23 15:43                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-04-23 15:56                                     ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-23 16:45                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-24  9:08                                         ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-24 14:13                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-25 13:14                                             ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-25 13:29                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-25 13:54                                                 ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-25 14:06                                                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-25 15:05                                                     ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-25 15:29                                                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-25 13:59                                                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-25 14:01                                                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-25 14:24                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-25 15:06                                                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-25 15:27                                                       ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-25 15:46                                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-04-25 16:16                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-25 15:32                                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-04-25 16:21                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-25 17:34                                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-04-25 18:20                                                           ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-25 18:35                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-04-27 14:30                                                             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2025-04-28 17:03                                                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-04-29  3:56                                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-04-29 10:39                                                               ` Parav Pandit
2025-04-30  3:34                                                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2025-04-30 12:14                                                                   ` Parav Pandit

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