From: "Gonglei (Arei)" <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
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Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 0/6] refactor RDMA live migration based on rsocket API
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 10:09:43 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <de950e0e2cda4f8dacd15892a6328861@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zl9rw3Q9Z9A0iMYV@x1n>
Hi Peter,
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Xu [mailto:peterx@redhat.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2024 3:32 AM
> To: Gonglei (Arei) <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>
> Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org; yu.zhang@ionos.com; mgalaxy@akamai.com;
> elmar.gerdes@ionos.com; zhengchuan <zhengchuan@huawei.com>;
> berrange@redhat.com; armbru@redhat.com; lizhijian@fujitsu.com;
> pbonzini@redhat.com; mst@redhat.com; Xiexiangyou
> <xiexiangyou@huawei.com>; linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org; lixiao (H)
> <lixiao91@huawei.com>; jinpu.wang@ionos.com; Wangjialin
> <wangjialin23@huawei.com>; Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] refactor RDMA live migration based on rsocket API
>
> Hi, Lei, Jialin,
>
> Thanks a lot for working on this!
>
> I think we'll need to wait a bit on feedbacks from Jinpu and his team on RDMA
> side, also Daniel for iochannels. Also, please remember to copy Fabiano
> Rosas in any relevant future posts. We'd also like to know whether he has any
> comments too. I have him copied in this reply.
>
> On Tue, Jun 04, 2024 at 08:14:06PM +0800, Gonglei wrote:
> > From: Jialin Wang <wangjialin23@huawei.com>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > This patch series attempts to refactor RDMA live migration by
> > introducing a new QIOChannelRDMA class based on the rsocket API.
> >
> > The /usr/include/rdma/rsocket.h provides a higher level rsocket API
> > that is a 1-1 match of the normal kernel 'sockets' API, which hides
> > the detail of rdma protocol into rsocket and allows us to add support
> > for some modern features like multifd more easily.
> >
> > Here is the previous discussion on refactoring RDMA live migration
> > using the rsocket API:
> >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20240328130255.52257-1-philmd@linar
> > o.org/
> >
> > We have encountered some bugs when using rsocket and plan to submit
> > them to the rdma-core community.
> >
> > In addition, the use of rsocket makes our programming more convenient,
> > but it must be noted that this method introduces multiple memory
> > copies, which can be imagined that there will be a certain performance
> > degradation, hoping that friends with RDMA network cards can help verify,
> thank you!
>
> It'll be good to elaborate if you tested it in-house. What people should expect
> on the numbers exactly? Is that okay from Huawei's POV?
>
> Besides that, the code looks pretty good at a first glance to me. Before
> others chim in, here're some high level comments..
>
> Firstly, can we avoid using coroutine when listen()? Might be relevant when I
> see that rdma_accept_incoming_migration() runs in a loop to do raccept(), but
> would that also hang the qemu main loop even with the coroutine, before all
> channels are ready? I'm not a coroutine person, but I think the hope is that
> we can make dest QEMU run in a thread in the future just like the src QEMU, so
> the less coroutine the better in this path.
>
Because rsocket is set to non-blocking, raccept will return EAGAIN when no connection
is received, coroutine will yield, and will not hang the qemu main loop.
> I think I also left a comment elsewhere on whether it would be possible to allow
> iochannels implement their own poll() functions to avoid the per-channel poll
> thread that is proposed in this series.
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/r/ZldY21xVExtiMddB@x1n
>
We noticed that, and it's a big operation. I'm not sure that's a better way.
> Personally I think even with the thread proposal it's better than the old rdma
> code, but I just still want to double check with you guys. E.g., maybe that just
> won't work at all? Again, that'll also be based on the fact that we move
> migration incoming into a thread first to keep the dest QEMU main loop intact,
> I think, but I hope we will reach that irrelevant of rdma, IOW it'll be nice to
> happen even earlier if possible.
>
Yep. This is a fairly big change, I wonder what other people's suggestions are?
> Another nitpick is that qio_channel_rdma_listen_async() doesn't look used and
> may prone to removal.
>
Yes. This is because when we wrote the test case, we wanted to test qio_channel_rdma_connect_async,
and also I added qio_channel_rdma_listen_async. It is not used in the RDMA hot migration code.
Regards,
-Gonglei
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-05 10:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-04 12:14 [PATCH 0/6] refactor RDMA live migration based on rsocket API Gonglei
2024-06-04 12:14 ` [PATCH 1/6] migration: remove RDMA live migration temporarily Gonglei
2024-06-04 14:01 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-06-05 10:02 ` Gonglei (Arei)
2024-06-10 11:45 ` Markus Armbruster
2024-06-04 12:14 ` [PATCH 2/6] io: add QIOChannelRDMA class Gonglei
2024-06-10 6:54 ` Jinpu Wang
2024-06-04 12:14 ` [PATCH 3/6] io/channel-rdma: support working in coroutine Gonglei
2024-06-06 13:34 ` Haris Iqbal
2024-06-07 8:45 ` Gonglei (Arei)
2024-06-07 10:01 ` Haris Iqbal
2024-06-07 9:04 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-07 9:28 ` Gonglei (Arei)
2024-06-04 12:14 ` [PATCH 4/6] tests/unit: add test-io-channel-rdma.c Gonglei
2024-06-04 12:14 ` [PATCH 5/6] migration: introduce new RDMA live migration Gonglei
2024-06-04 12:14 ` [PATCH 6/6] migration/rdma: support multifd for RDMA migration Gonglei
2024-06-04 19:32 ` [PATCH 0/6] refactor RDMA live migration based on rsocket API Peter Xu
2024-06-05 10:09 ` Gonglei (Arei) [this message]
2024-06-05 14:18 ` Peter Xu
2024-06-07 8:49 ` Gonglei (Arei)
2024-06-10 16:35 ` Peter Xu
2024-06-07 10:06 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-06-05 7:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-05 10:00 ` Gonglei (Arei)
2024-06-05 10:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-06-06 11:31 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-06-07 1:04 ` Zhijian Li (Fujitsu)
2024-06-07 16:24 ` Yu Zhang
2024-06-07 5:53 ` Jinpu Wang
2024-06-07 8:28 ` Gonglei (Arei)
2024-06-10 16:31 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-27 20:15 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-27 20:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-09-22 19:29 ` Michael Galaxy
2024-09-23 1:04 ` Gonglei (Arei)
2024-09-25 15:08 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-27 21:45 ` Sean Hefty
2024-09-28 17:52 ` Michael Galaxy
2024-09-29 18:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-09-29 20:26 ` Michael Galaxy
2024-09-29 22:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-09-30 15:00 ` Michael Galaxy
2024-09-30 15:31 ` Yu Zhang
2024-09-30 18:16 ` Peter Xu
2024-09-30 19:20 ` Sean Hefty
2024-09-30 19:47 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-03 21:26 ` Michael Galaxy
2024-10-03 21:43 ` Peter Xu
2024-10-04 14:04 ` Michael Galaxy
2024-10-07 8:47 ` Yu Zhang
2024-10-07 13:45 ` Michael Galaxy
2024-10-07 18:15 ` Leon Romanovsky
2024-10-08 9:31 ` Zhu Yanjun
2024-10-23 13:42 ` Michael Galaxy
2024-09-27 20:34 ` Michael Galaxy
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