From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Chris Brandt <Chris.Brandt@renesas.com>
Cc: Jacopo Mondi <jacopo+renesas@jmondi.org>,
"magnus.damm@gmail.com" <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
"geert+renesas@glider.be" <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
"linus.walleij@linaro.org" <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
"linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org"
<linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org" <linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Renesas RZ PFC and GPIO driver
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 03:28:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2671694.94z5NEauGX@avalon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SG2PR06MB1165EBCB06C5D473CBAC2F218A640@SG2PR06MB1165.apcprd06.prod.outlook.com>
Hi Chris,
On Monday 09 Jan 2017 23:53:39 Chris Brandt wrote:
> On Monday, January 09, 2017, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > Both the existing RZ/A model and the pinctrl model are in my opinion
> > improvements over the RZ/G and R-Car models. I don't care much about
> > whether pinctrl-single can be used, but we really need hardware
> > architectures that don't require those huge data tables.
>
> I can definitely agree to that.
>
> > It's more complex than that. Both the pin-based and group-based models
> > have their pros and cons, and the pinctrl API is some kind of mix that
> > allows both options.
>
> Here is my general question: Which of these 2 approaches are better?
>
> A) In the DT, the user ask "enable Ethernet please" and magic happens in
> the pfc driver.
>
> B) In the DT, the user looks up the correct pin/function assignments in
> the SoC Hardware Manual and manually spells out what they need.
>
> R-Car looks more like A. I've been using a driver that looks more like B.
>
> For most drivers (USB, MMC, SDHI, etc..,), I'm happy when 'magic happens'
> and I don't really have to open a HW manual at all.
> But, for something like setting up the PFC when someone gets a shiny new
> board, making people actually open a HW manual seems acceptable to me.
>From a user point of view, option A looks better to me. However, it has two
drawbacks:
- Through deciding what pin groups we make available we create a DT ABI that
will make it difficult to fix mistakes in case the groups are not fine-grained
enough.
- The data tables in C code are large, and we end up compiling many of them in
multi-platform kernel, significantly increasing the kernel size.
I would thus favour option B.
--
Regards,
Laurent Pinchart
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-01-10 1:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-01-09 19:31 [PATCH 0/3] Renesas RZ PFC and GPIO driver Jacopo Mondi
2017-01-09 19:31 ` [PATCH 1/3] pinctrl: sh-pfc: Add r7s72100 PFC driver Jacopo Mondi
2017-01-10 14:59 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-01-09 19:31 ` [PATCH 2/3] gpio: gpio-rz: GPIO driver for Renesas RZ series Jacopo Mondi
2017-01-11 14:55 ` Linus Walleij
2017-01-12 10:50 ` jacopo mondi
2017-01-12 14:39 ` Chris Brandt
2017-01-12 19:13 ` jacopo mondi
2017-01-12 19:45 ` Chris Brandt
2017-01-09 19:31 ` [PATCH 3/3] arm: dts: r7s72100: Add peripherals nodes Jacopo Mondi
2017-01-10 15:07 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-01-10 19:58 ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-10 21:13 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-01-11 10:33 ` Simon Horman
2017-01-11 10:55 ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-11 10:59 ` Simon Horman
2017-01-11 9:17 ` jacopo mondi
2017-01-11 10:56 ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-09 19:51 ` [PATCH 0/3] Renesas RZ PFC and GPIO driver Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-09 21:08 ` Chris Brandt
2017-01-09 22:49 ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-09 23:53 ` Chris Brandt
2017-01-10 1:28 ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2017-01-10 3:12 ` Chris Brandt
2017-01-10 22:32 ` jacopo mondi
2017-01-11 0:46 ` Chris Brandt
2017-01-11 10:35 ` Simon Horman
2017-01-11 11:22 ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-11 15:15 ` jacopo mondi
2017-01-11 16:31 ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-01-11 17:51 ` jacopo mondi
2017-01-11 20:17 ` Chris Brandt
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