From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [198.137.202.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5AA0BC83F14 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 08:35:41 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=Sender:Content-Type: List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Post:List-Archive:List-Unsubscribe:List-Id: In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:CC:To:From:Date: Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date :Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Owner; bh=pm87HOEKYChRAQfBhtE+3GbweFRQfv46Oe15CFOj2DM=; b=yA4AREtW3hbwn7hXN2ggV9+xi6 Rd/rOffWrVfERWKUK7fc+xdFTJMhXMiU3NAalVj4qMWfzDLZmwaIwoCI7JOyLwFmqwVxob0HnDhAZ v2cbGBsvEjc4ikLAYqL3hNGYqM/ZxQuwzyolJRHtYc1yt7Vq3MaZ7ONrJ/wBSCnS/5rco3qam90zD Nqj3sBMvOaRdjK0xgv8W3sgJnEFErlZDciKArrwWDsljLftMD6kK8CYg89H86e9T2Sg0HWAj1izNr NZTLmZhoZrjZAdsEh537b1/moohxPs30M4j72JL6dZoZlrUVyazaWaU1G+M2eqp9M5xtAL9/V6rIz jv+xRwGA==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=bombadil.infradead.org) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.96 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1qbGfn-00D5ec-1k; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 08:35:35 +0000 Received: from esa.microchip.iphmx.com ([68.232.154.123]) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.96 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1qbGfk-00D5e6-1g for linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 08:35:33 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=microchip.com; i=@microchip.com; q=dns/txt; s=mchp; t=1693384532; x=1724920532; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=1rr15Edf/mJdMl4aJdngCeF31+Nb5/f0kCNlVbqGRGc=; b=e6rj8UonI6OGbuBmuV1zfD2uIXmXv2slKvQFHtq1VwhaNeAuxo9xSqEC zV3HVUytXO9pxQQ09uKuEVCfYolfihTqiHa05hQ1OuyeZio6Pg2Za/gR2 iv06mUCs/gHjKTnO5n2QIEFaeqeU3rLK7qk0HHSUWjwyG9ic4hnj56p6J x5JQaoEZs25nWkYtUsVHh1XTXwRDieaKNFL089HAM9buhl1psTzUU5RFg qXBkA2xXoCjiZKF1bC9fyJPAC37+nwdENACkmHF/f9GKGU7YTIYb4YROm 1UI44T1T5rYFApl8O/B1eLuHIVBPbSVeqpNsCzvFeszkHe+jq9yUXrIu8 g==; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="6.02,213,1688454000"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="169026622" X-Amp-Result: UNKNOWN X-Amp-Original-Verdict: FILE UNKNOWN Received: from unknown (HELO email.microchip.com) ([170.129.1.10]) by esa6.microchip.iphmx.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES256-SHA256; 30 Aug 2023 01:35:25 -0700 Received: from chn-vm-ex01.mchp-main.com (10.10.85.143) by chn-vm-ex01.mchp-main.com (10.10.85.143) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id 15.1.2507.21; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 01:34:51 -0700 Received: from wendy (10.10.85.11) by chn-vm-ex01.mchp-main.com (10.10.85.143) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id 15.1.2507.21 via Frontend Transport; Wed, 30 Aug 2023 01:34:48 -0700 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2023 09:34:06 +0100 From: Conor Dooley To: Krzysztof Kozlowski CC: William Qiu , , , , , Emil Renner Berthing , Rob Herring , Jaehoon Chung , Ulf Hansson , Krzysztof Kozlowski , Conor Dooley , Paul Walmsley , Palmer Dabbelt , Albert Ou Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/3] dt-bindings: mmc: Drop unused properties Message-ID: <20230830-procedure-frostbite-56c751f7c276@wendy> References: <20230830031846.127957-1-william.qiu@starfivetech.com> <20230830031846.127957-2-william.qiu@starfivetech.com> <20230830-commence-trickery-40eaa193cb15@wendy> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20230830_013532_758058_52909F43 X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 18.59 ) X-BeenThere: linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7980684206110640311==" Sender: "linux-riscv" Errors-To: linux-riscv-bounces+linux-riscv=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org --===============7980684206110640311== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="h1favm8wo5hVWnmt" Content-Disposition: inline --h1favm8wo5hVWnmt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 09:29:20AM +0200, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote: > On 30/08/2023 08:50, Conor Dooley wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 11:18:44AM +0800, William Qiu wrote: > >> Due to the change of tuning implementation, it's no longer necessary to > >> use the "starfive,sysreg" property in dts, so drop the relevant > >> description in dt-bindings here. > >=20 > > How does changing your software implantation invalidate a description of > > the hardware? > >=20 >=20 > Which is kind of proof that this syscon was just to substitute > incomplete hardware description (e.g. missing clocks and phys). We > should have rejected it. Just like we should reject them in the future. :s I dunno what to do with this... I'm inclined to say not to remove it =66rom the binding or dts at all & only change the software. > There are just few cases where syscon is reasonable. All others is just > laziness. It's not only starfivetech, of course. Several other > contributors do the same. I'm not sure if laziness is fair, lack of understanding is usually more likely. --h1favm8wo5hVWnmt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEABYIAB0WIQRh246EGq/8RLhDjO14tDGHoIJi0gUCZO7++gAKCRB4tDGHoIJi 0u4KAP0Vf98t3HptgWUDxzyfGqUIFcjfe/j2Dbq8eR0D637TbAEA0mpYQNoVYT5e 3uimUjgIT7U4Gkf664SMkKGV+ED1Zgs= =cvPO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --h1favm8wo5hVWnmt-- --===============7980684206110640311== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ linux-riscv mailing list linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-riscv --===============7980684206110640311==--