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From: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
To: Anup Patel <apatel@ventanamicro.com>
Cc: Inochi Amaoto <inochiama@outlook.com>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
	aou@eecs.berkeley.edu, chao.wei@sophgo.com,
	evicetree@vger.kernel.org, emil.renner.berthing@canonical.com,
	guoren@kernel.org, jszhang@kernel.org,
	krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, palmer@dabbelt.com,
	paul.walmsley@sifive.com, robh+dt@kernel.org,
	xiaoguang.xing@sophgo.com, Chen Wang <wangchen20@iscas.ac.cn>,
	Atish Patra <atishp@rivosinc.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 06/11] dt-bindings: timer: Add Sophgo sg2042 clint
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2023 15:51:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230920-992a56b66366f3c0591a6a94@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK9=C2WWzc_M49-S+Gi509a6-gk3-89sAZn-ZCRhsQc4JwUpoQ@mail.gmail.com>


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On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 08:08:49PM +0530, Anup Patel wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 6:28 PM Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 08:40:07PM +0800, Inochi Amaoto wrote:
> > > >On 20/09/2023 14:15, Inochi Amaoto wrote:
> > > >>> On 20/09/2023 08:39, Chen Wang wrote:
> > > >>>> From: Inochi Amaoto <inochiama@outlook.com>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Add two new compatible string formatted like `C9xx-clint-xxx` to identify
> > > >>>> the timer and ipi device separately, and do not allow c900-clint as the
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Why?
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> If use the same compatible, SBI will process this twice in both ipi and
> > > >> timer, use different compatible will allow SBI to treat these as different.
> > > >> AFAIK, the aclint in SBI use the same concepts, which make hard to use the
> > > >> second register range. I have explained in another response.
> > > >
> > > >What is a SBI? Linux driver? If so, why some intermediate Linux driver
> > > >choice should affect bindings?
> > > >Best regards,
> > > >Krzysztof
> > > >
> > >
> > > SBI (Supervisor Binary Interface) is defined by riscv, which is an interface
> > > between the Supervisor Execution Environment (SEE) and the supervisor. The
> > > detailed documentation can be found in [1].
> > >
> > > The implement of SBI needs fdt info of the platform, which is provided by
> > > kernel. So we need a dt-bindings for these devices, and these will be
> > > processed by SBI.
> > >
> > > [1] https://github.com/riscv-non-isa/riscv-sbi-doc
> >
> > Yeah, this is the unfortunate problem of half-baked bindings (IMO)
> > ending up in OpenSBI (which likely means they also ended up in QEMU).
> > This T-Head stuff is coming across our (metaphorical) desks, so we are
> > obviously going to try to do things correctly. I may end up speaking to
> > Anup later today, if I do I will point him at this thread (if he hasn't
> > seen it already).
> 
> RISC-V ACLINT is one of those unfortunate non-ISA specs (like
> SiFive PLIC) which is implemented by various organizations but
> not officially ratified by RVI.

Yeah, I brought this stuff up at the weekly pw sync call, and Paul
pointed that out.

> The SiFive CLINT has flexibility related limitations which makes it
> not useful for multi-socket and mult-die systems. The SiFive CLINT
> is also not useful for systems with AIA because with AIA M-mode has
> a new way of doing M-mode IPIs. Due to this reasons, the RISC-V
> ACLINT spec breaks down traditional SiFive CLINT into two separate
> devices namely mtimer and mswi. This allows platforms to implement
> only the required set of devices. The mtimer as defined by the ACLINT
> specifications also allows platforms to place mtime and mtimecmp
> registers at different locations.
> 
> Refer, https://github.com/riscv/riscv-aclint/blob/main/riscv-aclint.adoc
> 
> We need a separate DT bindings document for ACLINT MTIMER
> and ACLINT MSWI because these are separate devices. The
> Sophgo sg2042 SoC should add their implementation specific
> compatible strings in this document.

If the spec isn't frozen, I'm not accepting a binding for the "generic"
version of it. Bindings for this specific implemtnation are okay.
For sure though, squeezing this into the sifive,plic binding isn't
appropriate.

What was pointed out, I think by Samuel, that the reason that this may
need to be split is the fact that there are many possible MTIMER
register ranges & possibly sswi stuff too that would need to be
differentiated.

> 
> Regards,
> Anup

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-20 14:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-20  6:33 [PATCH v2 00/11] Add Milk-V Pioneer RISC-V board support Chen Wang
2023-09-20  6:34 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] riscv: Add SOPHGO SOC family Kconfig support Chen Wang
2023-09-20  7:34   ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20  8:21   ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20  6:37 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] dt-bindings: vendor-prefixes: add milkv/sophgo Chen Wang
2023-09-20  7:38   ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20  8:22   ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20  9:14     ` Chen Wang
2023-09-20  6:37 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] dt-bindings: riscv: add sophgo sg2042 bindings Chen Wang
2023-09-20  7:43   ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20  8:28   ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-21 10:21     ` Chen Wang
2023-09-21 12:18       ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-21 13:40         ` Chen Wang
2023-09-21 13:51         ` Chen Wang
2023-09-21 14:00           ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-22  1:48     ` Chen Wang
2023-09-20 11:55   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-09-20 12:03     ` 汪辰
2023-09-21  0:48       ` Jisheng Zhang
2023-09-20  6:38 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] dt-bindings: riscv: Add T-HEAD C920 compatibles Chen Wang
2023-09-20  7:44   ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20  8:37   ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20  6:39 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] dt-bindings: interrupt-controller: Add SOPHGO's SG2042 PLIC Chen Wang
2023-09-20  7:45   ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20  8:57   ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20  6:39 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] dt-bindings: timer: Add Sophgo sg2042 clint Chen Wang
2023-09-20  8:12   ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20  8:50   ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20  9:08     ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-20  9:53       ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 11:24         ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-20 13:03           ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-21  0:43             ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-21  8:05               ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-21  8:18                 ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-21  8:52                   ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-21  9:44                     ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-20 11:57   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-09-20 12:15     ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-20 12:30       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-09-20 12:40         ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-20 12:58           ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 13:09             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-09-20 14:38             ` Anup Patel
2023-09-20 14:51               ` Conor Dooley [this message]
2023-09-20 22:20                 ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-22  5:16                 ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-22  7:43                   ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-22  8:18                     ` Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-20  6:39 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] dt-bindings: serial: snps-dw-apb-uart: Add Sophgo SG2042 uarts Chen Wang
2023-09-20  7:51   ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20  8:37   ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20  6:40 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] serial: 8250_dw: Add Sophgo SG2042 support Chen Wang
2023-09-20  7:53   ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20  8:05     ` Chen Wang
2023-09-20  8:08       ` Guo Ren
2023-09-22  9:41   ` Ben Dooks
2023-09-22 10:40     ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-09-22 11:39       ` Chen Wang
2023-09-26  7:38       ` Chen Wang
2023-09-20  6:40 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] riscv: dts: add initial SOPHGO SG2042 SoC device tree Chen Wang
2023-09-20  8:04   ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20  8:57   ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20  9:07     ` [PATCH v2 06/11] dt-bindings: timer: Add Sophgo sg2042 clint Inochi Amaoto
2023-09-21  9:56     ` [PATCH v2 09/11] riscv: dts: add initial SOPHGO SG2042 SoC device tree Chen Wang
2023-09-21 10:15       ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-21 10:27         ` Chen Wang
2023-09-21 12:06           ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 11:32   ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-09-20 12:09     ` 汪辰
2023-09-20 12:32       ` Emil Renner Berthing
2023-09-20 12:37         ` 汪辰
2023-09-20 15:19   ` Palmer Dabbelt
2023-09-20 15:31     ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20  6:40 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] riscv: dts: sophgo: add Milk-V Pioneer board " Chen Wang
2023-09-20  8:05   ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20  8:16   ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 11:59   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-09-20  6:41 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] riscv: defconfig: enable SOPHGO SoC Chen Wang
2023-09-20  8:06   ` Guo Ren
2023-09-20  8:58   ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-20 10:01 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] Add Milk-V Pioneer RISC-V board support Conor Dooley
2023-09-22 10:24   ` Chen Wang
2023-09-22 10:50     ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-22 11:28       ` Chen Wang
2023-09-20 15:22 ` Palmer Dabbelt
2023-09-26 10:29   ` Chen Wang

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