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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: "Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)" <chleroy@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/22] mm: introduce MMF_KERNEL flag and set it for init_mm
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2026 14:07:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <33fc9d31-2866-4315-9510-0004deb93994@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <01f07ea2-8bdd-4450-8a49-548f8b646cfd@kernel.org>

On 8/3/26 15:59, Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP) wrote:
> 
> 
> Le 14/07/2026 à 16:03, Kevin Brodsky a écrit :
>> mm code often needs to know whether some mm represents a kernel or
>> user address space. This is currently done by comparing the mm
>> pointer with &init_mm; besides not being particularly elegant, this
>> ignores the fact that other mm's (e.g. efi_mm) may also represent
>> parts of the kernel address space.
>>
>> Introduce a new mm flag MMF_KERNEL and set it for init_mm.
>> Subsequent patches will use this flag to replace comparisons with
>> &init_mm. No functional change is introduced for now.
> 
> Did you consider performance impact ? This test is usually done in quite
> critical memory handling functions.
> 
> init_mm is known at link time. Before your patch 08/22 there is just a
> comparison of mm (r3) with a constant (loaded in r10):
> 
> c0014048 <assert_pte_locked>:
> c0014048:    3d 40 c1 09     lis     r10,-16119
> c001404c:    39 4a 03 98     addi    r10,r10,920
> c0014050:    7c 03 50 00     cmpw    r3,r10
> c0014054:    4d 82 00 20     beqlr
> ...
> 
> After patch 08/22 we have, it first checks that mm is not 0, then it loads the
> word located at mm+528 then AND it with 0x1. This load might be costly.
> 
> c0014048 <assert_pte_locked>:
> c0014048:    2c 03 00 00     cmpwi   r3,0
> c001404c:    7c 85 23 78     mr      r5,r4
> c0014050:    41 82 00 10     beq     c0014060 <assert_pte_locked+0x18>
> c0014054:    81 23 02 10     lwz     r9,528(r3)
> c0014058:    71 29 00 01     andi.   r9,r9,1
> c001405c:    4c 82 00 20     bnelr

Is that a real problem, though?

What we could do is to just keep the == &init_mm check internally on configs
where we know that there is only a single such MM context.

Just a thought.

-- 
Cheers,

David

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-05 12:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-14 14:03 [PATCH 00/22] Simplify special kernel page table handling Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 01/22] mm: drop unused __mm_flags_set_mask_bits_word() Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-21 14:57   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 02/22] mm: move mm_flags helpers to mm_types.h Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-21 14:57   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 03/22] mm: introduce MMF_KERNEL flag and set it for init_mm Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:47   ` Dave Hansen
2026-07-14 15:04     ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-07-16  9:33       ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-21 15:04         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-24 16:22           ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-08-03 13:59   ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2026-08-05 12:07     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 04/22] mm: use mm_is_kernel() in generic page table code Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-16  9:35   ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-21 15:07     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-24 16:22       ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 05/22] arm64: mm: use mm_is_kernel() for kernel mm checks Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 06/22] loongarch: mm: use mm_is_kernel() in switch_mm_irqs_off() Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 07/22] parisc: mm: use mm_is_kernel() for kernel mm checks Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 08/22] powerpc: " Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 09/22] s390: " Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:03 ` [PATCH 10/22] sparc: " Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 11/22] um: mm: use mm_is_kernel() in TLB sync Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 12/22] x86/mm: use mm_is_kernel() for kernel mm checks Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 15:09   ` Dave Hansen
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 13/22] mm: account page table pages when allocated Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 14/22] mm: set page table page type " Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 15:16   ` Vishal Moola
2026-07-16  9:49     ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-20 19:05       ` Vishal Moola
2026-07-24 16:31         ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 15/22] mm: only initialise pt_share_count for user pgtables Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-21 15:12   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-24 16:25     ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 16/22] efi: mark efi_mm as a kernel mm Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 17/22] mm: pagewalk: drop redundant address check for kernel mm walks Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-16 10:24   ` Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 18/22] arm64: mm: drop explicit mm_is_efi() check in contpte Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 19/22] x86/tboot: mark tboot_mm as a kernel mm Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 15:19   ` Dave Hansen
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 20/22] arm64: mm: drop ctor/dtor calls for kernel page tables Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 21/22] arm: mm: drop ctor call " Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-14 14:04 ` [PATCH 22/22] riscv: mm: drop ctor/dtor calls " Kevin Brodsky
2026-07-15 15:07 ` [PATCH 00/22] Simplify special kernel page table handling Kevin Brodsky

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