From: "Björn Töpel" <bjorn@kernel.org>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Puranjay Mohan <puranjay12@gmail.com>,
Andy Chiu <andy.chiu@sifive.com>,
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Robbin Ehn <rehn@rivosinc.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] riscv: Implement HAVE_DYNAMIC_FTRACE_WITH_CALL_OPS
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 09:58:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87frwkotaj.fsf@all.your.base.are.belong.to.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZfslAb_W0Gk-0pmR@FVFF77S0Q05N.cambridge.arm.com>
Mark,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> writes:
>> A) Use auipc/jalr, only patch jalr to take us to a common
>> dispatcher/trampoline
>>
>> | <func_trace_target_data_8B> # probably on a data cache-line != func .text to avoid ping-pong
>> | ...
>> | func:
>> | ...make sure ra isn't messed up...
>> | aupic
>> | nop <=> jalr # Text patch point -> common_dispatch
>> | ACTUAL_FUNC
>> |
>> | common_dispatch:
>> | load <func_trace_target_data_8B> based on ra
>> | jalr
>> | ...
>>
>> The auipc is never touched, and will be overhead. Also, we need a mv to
>> store ra in a scratch register as well -- like Arm. We'll have two insn
>> per-caller overhead for a disabled caller.
>
> Is the AUIPC a significant overhead? IIUC that's similar to Arm's ADRP, and I'd
> have expected that to be pretty cheap.
No, reg-to-reg moves are dirt cheap in my book.
> IIUC your JALR can choose which destination register to store the return
> address in, and if so, you could leave the original ra untouched (and recover
> that in the common trampoline). Have I misunderstood that?
>
> Maybe that doesn't play nicely with something else?
No, you're right, we can link to another register, and shave off an
instruction. I can imagine that some implementation prefer x1/x5 for
branch prediction reasons, but that's something that we can measure on.
So, 1-2 movs + nop are unconditionally executed on the disabled case.
(1-2 depending on the ra save/jalr reg strategy).
>> B) Use jal, which can only take us +/-1M, and requires multiple
>> dispatchers (and tracking which one to use, and properly distribute
>> them. Ick.)
>>
>> | <func_trace_target_data_8B> # probably on a data cache-line != func .text to avoid ping-pong
>> | ...
>> | func:
>> | ...make sure ra isn't messed up...
>> | nop <=> jal # Text patch point -> within_1M_to_func_dispatch
>> | ACTUAL_FUNC
>> |
>> | within_1M_to_func_dispatch:
>> | load <func_trace_target_data_8B> based on ra
>> | jalr
>>
>> C) Use jal, which can only take us +/-1M, and use a per-function
>> trampoline requires multiple dispatchers (and tracking which one to
>> use). Blows up text size A LOT.
>>
>> | <func_trace_target_data_8B> # somewhere, but probably on a different cacheline than the .text to avoid ping-ongs
>> | ...
>> | per_func_dispatch
>> | load <func_trace_target_data_8B> based on ra
>> | jalr
>> | func:
>> | ...make sure ra isn't messed up...
>> | nop <=> jal # Text patch point -> per_func_dispatch
>> | ACTUAL_FUNC
>
> Beware that with option (C) you'll need to handle that in your unwinder for
> RELIABLE_STACKTRACE. If you don't have a symbol for per_func_dispatch (or
> func_trace_target_data_8B), PC values within per_func_dispatch would be
> symbolized as the prior function/data.
Good point (but I don't like C much...)!
>> It's a bit sad that we'll always have to have a dispatcher/trampoline,
>> but it's still better than stop_machine(). (And we'll need a fencei IPI
>> as well, but only one. ;-))
>>
>> Today, I'm leaning towards A (which is what Mark suggested, and also
>> Robbin).. Any other options?
>
> Assuming my understanding of JALR above is correct, I reckon A is the nicest
> option out of A/B/C.
Yes! +1!
Björn
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-03-21 8:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-03-06 16:59 [RFC PATCH] riscv: Implement HAVE_DYNAMIC_FTRACE_WITH_CALL_OPS Puranjay Mohan
2024-03-06 20:35 ` Alexandre Ghiti
2024-03-06 20:38 ` Alexandre Ghiti
2024-03-07 0:17 ` Puranjay Mohan
2024-03-08 8:48 ` Andy Chiu
2024-03-11 13:56 ` [DMARC Error] " Evgenii Shatokhin
2024-03-07 19:27 ` Björn Töpel
2024-03-07 19:51 ` Puranjay Mohan
2024-03-08 9:18 ` Andy Chiu
2024-03-08 14:13 ` Puranjay Mohan
2024-03-10 1:37 ` Guo Ren
2024-03-08 10:16 ` Björn Töpel
2024-03-08 14:22 ` Puranjay Mohan
2024-03-08 15:15 ` Björn Töpel
2024-03-12 13:42 ` Mark Rutland
2024-03-13 11:23 ` Björn Töpel
2024-03-14 14:16 ` Puranjay Mohan
2024-03-14 15:07 ` Björn Töpel
2024-03-14 20:50 ` Björn Töpel
2024-03-20 16:41 ` Andy Chiu
2024-03-21 8:48 ` Björn Töpel
2024-03-21 17:39 ` Andy Chiu
2024-03-21 18:10 ` Björn Töpel
2024-03-25 12:50 ` Robbin Ehn
2024-03-20 18:03 ` Mark Rutland
2024-03-21 8:58 ` Björn Töpel [this message]
2024-03-21 14:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2024-03-21 20:02 ` Steven Rostedt
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