From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [198.137.202.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C7AEC44500 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 2026 10:21:06 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=Sender: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Post: List-Archive:List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:In-Reply-To:From:References:Cc:To: Subject:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: List-Owner; bh=QCtN9o7VPHcs4hPcCcLijny7OWogdTtUad4qVaICMFk=; b=dDooVJFfSjOsbv ErpVfyactCijrBC/XngEQLmAxkgljrJuunmsqCPpOskdjA9GsCrYiwMffT3nTRdcx4+B4RxkhS588 uGGX16f3lJ1/gLAs7D8Vyr6H3Yk1HlaY8UguFFgMGde+zGt5lSVefjeke+sdgm1anuYrGoetkg4+z khKCaDukap7HaEjdB/9Dy055yCJ1soseNxWZbNV06XvRDcstNq6dWULeEU+infY3Hz9IThz0sz/N8 H0uqckjca6ysyDqMssu/QiX6u3Cqn8BDbgkb//wCFbEp7Hz1TObk/PMCuHzZ3mnNWk8fDO8Z80+ry jJPWbQ/ZJi7decJwWXIQ==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=bombadil.infradead.org) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.99.1 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1wfb0z-00000006a8s-2xOO; Fri, 03 Jul 2026 10:20:57 +0000 Received: from sea.source.kernel.org ([172.234.252.31]) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.99.1 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1wfb0y-00000006a8P-0iSI; Fri, 03 Jul 2026 10:20:56 +0000 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (quasi.space.kernel.org [100.103.45.18]) by sea.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D6443808; Fri, 3 Jul 2026 10:20:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 915EC1F000E9; Fri, 3 Jul 2026 10:20:39 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kernel.org; s=k20260515; t=1783074054; bh=ZPRUjDwMrZAbF6fJGgjWgznfOUhgHM/af5VhyMMGGzQ=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=F4S3Dy7vLMZgBhj7UCqBvjp7mzSuBWMNBDq6Iviel9rIuDWstawXddpKaEjAyynL/ 6E76Th8kGRjDswvQ/XAxTl52xqhfcgDC6d0SkZpmznOxL4rfnWarCH45TXvcuGGNQS 9kPgVNGCd7suDm7gWRv5W4AI4S9nQr42Bp7V97kKhuPYPaWa6fMlVOB51lsjZ1Wtqm 7jwJK8WCVa6owazYnl+vd/Z0AVF3PquzNPskDcjbw/SRz4kBtBMRQV/H6603ty8CbO utuOMyWAZPx4kguiwDOKVdemHE9FSlnpLrSIAu/54ruHHaRVV0sOAk4Wj59KLq2tCU YYVkHhCodvNeQ== Message-ID: <9da51cde-cc89-405c-afb8-ccdc37879770@kernel.org> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2026 12:20:35 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v11 1/7] dt-bindings: phy: document the serdes PHY on sa8255p To: Geert Uytterhoeven , Bartosz Golaszewski Cc: Vinod Koul , Bjorn Andersson , Konrad Dybcio , Rob Herring , Krzysztof Kozlowski , Conor Dooley , Andrew Lunn , "David S. Miller" , Eric Dumazet , Jakub Kicinski , Paolo Abeni , Maxime Coquelin , Alexandre Torgue , Giuseppe Cavallaro , Chen-Yu Tsai , Jernej Skrabec , Neil Armstrong , Kevin Hilman , Jerome Brunet , Shawn Guo , Fabio Estevam , Jan Petrous , s32@nxp.com, Mohd Ayaan Anwar , Romain Gantois , Magnus Damm , Maxime Ripard , Christophe Roullier , Radu Rendec , linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Drew Fustini , linux-sunxi@lists.linux.dev, linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, imx@lists.linux.dev, linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org, linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org, sophgo@lists.linux.dev, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, Bartosz Golaszewski , Bartosz Golaszewski References: <20260629-qcom-sa8255p-emac-v11-0-1b7fb95b51f9@oss.qualcomm.com> <20260629-qcom-sa8255p-emac-v11-1-1b7fb95b51f9@oss.qualcomm.com> From: Krzysztof Kozlowski Content-Language: en-US Autocrypt: addr=krzk@kernel.org; keydata= xsFNBFVDQq4BEAC6KeLOfFsAvFMBsrCrJ2bCalhPv5+KQF2PS2+iwZI8BpRZoV+Bd5kWvN79 cFgcqTTuNHjAvxtUG8pQgGTHAObYs6xeYJtjUH0ZX6ndJ33FJYf5V3yXqqjcZ30FgHzJCFUu JMp7PSyMPzpUXfU12yfcRYVEMQrmplNZssmYhiTeVicuOOypWugZKVLGNm0IweVCaZ/DJDIH gNbpvVwjcKYrx85m9cBVEBUGaQP6AT7qlVCkrf50v8bofSIyVa2xmubbAwwFA1oxoOusjPIE J3iadrwpFvsZjF5uHAKS+7wHLoW9hVzOnLbX6ajk5Hf8Pb1m+VH/E8bPBNNYKkfTtypTDUCj NYcd27tjnXfG+SDs/EXNUAIRefCyvaRG7oRYF3Ec+2RgQDRnmmjCjoQNbFrJvJkFHlPeHaeS BosGY+XWKydnmsfY7SSnjAzLUGAFhLd/XDVpb1Een2XucPpKvt9ORF+48gy12FA5GduRLhQU vK4tU7ojoem/G23PcowM1CwPurC8sAVsQb9KmwTGh7rVz3ks3w/zfGBy3+WmLg++C2Wct6nM Pd8/6CBVjEWqD06/RjI2AnjIq5fSEH/BIfXXfC68nMp9BZoy3So4ZsbOlBmtAPvMYX6U8VwD TNeBxJu5Ex0Izf1NV9CzC3nNaFUYOY8KfN01X5SExAoVTr09ewARAQABzSVLcnp5c3p0b2Yg S296bG93c2tpIDxrcnprQGtlcm5lbC5vcmc+wsGPBBMBCgA5AhsDBgsJCAcDAgYVCAIJCgsE FgIDAQIeAQIXgBYhBJvQfg4MUfjVlne3VBuTQ307QWKbBQJp2mE8AAoJEBuTQ307QWKbeaIP /ihHTkTW4KsN/DQ945JJbyu5tI0J80Wue7QyyLPglyKfhgb5cLLNPpOC8cCIJsc7+W3i2P38 s2c1cOH6CYGE7E9ur3Vfme8NW2S2I/Z8VC7bZnzyS23wT17LrsdS/qCpx4o8U+pt/xdXDKph EGRYrIEmMpUWvyYzyYKGIe25FtaayIIKpq8eZYyFcp2f/sG5IkOW5uZzHPMPdcm87jU7fyuQ rAU2vx9r+ulUfQ/q9Z2roC/ode3l7t2pN7BCBCsUDp6JCrUyZrtT1e7EbA0ZRP3aOBNk2P2E DQOgJGjGdO5Yx2Y9LFtltu6JbsBJHi1syGRX3AtQYOMc4Y1WGoeZJmMlvKj2ZqqXNkcWi2DS IQEWB0uW6CqFsBBIMGDa+6OzdaVO/uAVXWDWml02Men3CILdI1MbVjoh8ECqYUY7OQ+JJvNN vnliuq5WM3Ghd3jg/LZZrxXjdIginRHFQCjIJYLKpLZWm1/iDFedcfzqRNYmTtqscdCNHW41 oT3Z7BmO9xwdjuwBS6nmS6JJwkbf5Ot2QR4pB/DRU7ZwjT1qHe+9r9gF32wXVQatHNGK/VVu sfwOnkdxCWkp/qb2gdQRmZh+SedStWshigH6sNfuHBloF/q+hjMRc8b2m326OZdrbSHwY1Sz vti8Hn7n8NjdHO9LKB7BIdjkA9DA5WsqOuVCzsFNBFVDXDQBEADNkrQYSREUL4D3Gws46JEo Z9HEQOKtkrwjrzlw/tCmqVzERRPvz2Xg8n7+HRCrgqnodIYoUh5WsU84N03KlLueMNsWLJBv BaubYN4JuJIdRr4dS4oyF1/fQAQPHh8Thpiz0SAZFx6iWKB7Qrz3OrGCjTPcW6eiOMheesVS 5hxietSmlin+SilmIAPZHx7n242u6kdHOh+/SyLImKn/dh9RzatVpUKbv34eP1wAGldWsRxb f3WP9pFNObSzI/Bo3kA89Xx2rO2roC+Gq4LeHvo7ptzcLcrqaHUAcZ3CgFG88CnA6z6lBZn0 WyewEcPOPdcUB2Q7D/NiUY+HDiV99rAYPJztjeTrBSTnHeSBPb+qn5ZZGQwIdUW9YegxWKvX XHTwB5eMzo/RB6vffwqcnHDoe0q7VgzRRZJwpi6aMIXLfeWZ5Wrwaw2zldFuO4Dt91pFzBSO IpeMtfgb/Pfe/a1WJ/GgaIRIBE+NUqckM+3zJHGmVPqJP/h2Iwv6nw8U+7Yyl6gUBLHFTg2h YnLFJI4Xjg+AX1hHFVKmvl3VBHIsBv0oDcsQWXqY+NaFahT0lRPjYtrTa1v3tem/JoFzZ4B0 p27K+qQCF2R96hVvuEyjzBmdq2esyE6zIqftdo4MOJho8uctOiWbwNNq2U9pPWmu4vXVFBYI GmpyNPYzRm0QPwARAQABwsF2BBgBCgAgAhsMFiEEm9B+DgxR+NWWd7dUG5NDfTtBYpsFAmna YUkACgkQG5NDfTtBYptX+BAApg32CkxwNucNEi8WfWA8oKkW0y8YDuY6ORMo9FWNGiT/OTy0 vyJrLocrpn86zwfjVp+eCrssPYh8eqJfnWqmYv6ACQtHPYzPZQ3mSo8H97Z01oUxITzCxpXm ZkLgPIqtDPcC2E3dPM/fVxcyowM8XsaMA9wcsaUYrta8toOq2b9tKcjleKMfMrm0gQ9u7wUc QbLkwj6TCLOwucb07GXzLTNF9PZmaDUpKAZjMjmrW+le+SFvQbhamx0rxLWPR0NWntXpbCn+ +ACch03p/JyTBVktxFsFyCt7pTPE1kEaeuXBTe/a2D9iQvRxRW19LvuO2e59/u1wYUiH/orz wbIC2S4dBsPAPihL3ztOU1yE86GPyQtSE0kU+/7snnLt4QGi6PChf3t5gnNjAzjUUovO8rgI c+5yN5heq5loYHgK6OQ9OlHzsPHO9e9MOQcKlFycs1pyijFGzDwdNUm/SchK8iWT2QApTx4A K9bCVaboTA2T77QYkRcRJYSsO1alGX0ome/hMLD1daXlkrNUp1HWa3K4iytLRXjCSIorWiGs n+q3krnpXu3TFkA8qtOFZMdnIiFuiq1yLT8hptsV5xh1TA2nsVvSYiaCr3q4s4BKjS/KrLDb qoxzw8ISjdUp4pA85vb6YLCmb39NgidD+7PmAr65lBNveIFynTgsja1rRQ4= In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-riscv" Errors-To: linux-riscv-bounces+linux-riscv=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On 02/07/2026 11:16, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > Hi Bartosz, > > On Thu, 2 Jul 2026 at 11:12, Bartosz Golaszewski wrote: >> On Tue, 30 Jun 2026 12:23:16 +0200, Vinod Koul said: >>> On 29-06-26, 16:51, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: >>>>> Russell King asked me to put the PHY logic for SCMI pm domains into the PHY >>>>> driver instead of the MAC driver where it was previously. Instead of cramming >>>>> both HLOS and firmware handling into the same driver, I figured it makes more >>>>> sense to have a dedicated, cleaner driver as the two share very little code (if >>>>> any). >>>> >>>> I think you are mixing up DT bindings and driver implementation? >>> >>> Should the bindings change if we have different driver and firmware >>> implementations? Isn't binding supposed to be agnostic of >>> implementations..? >> >> I've thought about it some more and I believe this question is philosophical in >> nature. >> >> sa8775p and sa8255p are *the same* hardware. I can flash different firmware on >> the same Lemans Ride board and it becomes one or the other. Yet they are not >> described by the same DTS and the bindings differ as well. I don't see why we >> wouldn't allow the same approach for the this PHY. >> >> We treat it as different HW variant when it's managed by firmware - just like >> we do with the rest of the SoC. > > DT describes hardware, not software policy. So everything is fine here. Bartosz described the hardware how it is available to the software (OS). Best regards, Krzysztof _______________________________________________ linux-riscv mailing list linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-riscv