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From: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
To: Changbin Du <changbin.du@huawei.com>
Cc: Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	Hui Wang <hw.huiwang@huawei.com>,
	<linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Changbin Du <changbin.du@gmail.com>, Zong Li <zong.li@sifive.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] riscv: patch: Fixup lockdep warning in stop_machine
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2023 14:01:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y9pwo5iC7hrPm/wk@wendy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230201210031.x7c5xlgxxiaoahqz@M910t>


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On Thu, Feb 02, 2023 at 05:00:31AM +0800, Changbin Du wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 07:50:20AM +0000, Conor Dooley wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 03:26:33PM +0800, Guo Ren wrote:
> [snip]
> > > > >
> > > > > -     /*
> > > > > -      * Before reaching here, it was expected to lock the text_mutex
> > > > > -      * already, so we don't need to give another lock here and could
> > > > > -      * ensure that it was safe between each cores.
> > > > > -      */
> > > > > -     lockdep_assert_held(&text_mutex);
> > > >
> > > > I must admit, patches like this do concern me a little, as a someone
> > > > unfamiliar with the world of probing and tracing.
> > > > Seeing an explicit check that the lock was held, leads me to believe
> > > > that the original author (Zong Li I think) thought that the text_mutex
> > > > lock was insufficient.
> > > > Do you think that their fear is unfounded? Explaining why it is safe to
> > > > remove this assertion in the commit message would go a long way towards
> > > > easing my anxiety!
> > > >
> > > > Also, why delete the comment altogether? The comment provides some
> > > > information that doesn't appear to become invalid, even with the
> > > > assertion removed?
> > > Stop_machine separated the mutex context and made a lockdep warning.
> > > So text_mutex can't be used here. We need to find another check
> > > solution. I agree with the patch.
> > 
> > Whether or not you agree with the change is not the point (with your SoB
> > I'd hope you agree with it).
> > I understand that you two are trying to fix a false positive lockdep
> > warning, but what I am asking for an explanation as to why the original
> > author's fear is unfounded.
> > Surely, having added the assertion, they were not thinking of the same
> > code path that you guys are hitting the false positive on?
> > 
> The assertion is reasonable since the fixmap entry is shared. The text_mutex
> does should be held before entering that function. But the false positive cases
> make some functions (ftrace for example) difficult to use due to warning log
> storm.
> 
> Either the lockdep should be fixed for stop_machine, or remove the assertion
> simply now (we can keep the comments). (or do the assertion conditionly?)

How would you suggest checking it conditionally?

Also, if you persist in removing the assertion, there is a comment in
arch/riscv/kernel/ftrace.c that would need to be updated. (L129-ish)

The comment you removed in this patch seems valid both before and after
though, so I don't see a compelling reason for its removal.

> And this is not a riscv only problem but common for architectures which use
> stop_machine to patch text. (arm for example)
> 
> > Perhaps Zong themselves can tell us what the original fear was?


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  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-01 14:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-30 23:26 [PATCH v3] riscv: patch: Fixup lockdep warning in stop_machine Changbin Du
2023-01-30 15:09 ` Conor Dooley
2023-01-31  7:26   ` Guo Ren
2023-01-31  7:50     ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-01 21:00       ` Changbin Du
2023-02-01 14:01         ` Conor Dooley [this message]
2023-02-02 23:00           ` Changbin Du
2023-02-02  8:01             ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-02 11:39               ` Changbin Du

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