From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [198.137.202.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BBC77C433EF for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2022 09:02:00 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=Sender: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Post: List-Archive:List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Subject:cc:To:From:Date:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: List-Owner; bh=vvBcFcKluE9THgM6tP62k5/rkJE2W/XTHmTBU4W5RbQ=; b=sKt8LVmFNCt36J f4fgVmwP3OfqAu3wuu8EBD8WiuAUx5RQXTS/vDGfqxlJLwO84auOomyXK9ha8oxChYgjMVlxXDrAU pm3kOoHJE0r8q6wG/cePLBSRZpx9/lleSD5V1kKKc6oip5AEc52bwSX90yMeHXzJWq0EZ2XP8k72Q 8zF1mNhoN9ogCBfcu4lF29tV1EnKNjQNx/WsIAeuYM2Brvz4Y2NtJLZxbknOK3s9Fl8fqeU8NOxsG zDwg+bvcK0BCm4qY3/aPHiFRznY7l3QCWMx8uOwJ3iQZiN7zQIFDJtAv6RsSza+D43BH6lAaJSDVF nnLKkIzpI2IWjC8GNOVQ==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=bombadil.infradead.org) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1ncO1Q-00Af1w-LC; Thu, 07 Apr 2022 09:01:44 +0000 Received: from wout1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([64.147.123.24]) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.94.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1ncNaz-00ASHu-JX for linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2022 08:34:27 +0000 Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93533201D51; Thu, 7 Apr 2022 04:34:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 07 Apr 2022 04:34:22 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:date:date:from:from :in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy :x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=OrAVdtI06jlWzu77P ZjIBfUVfDfo5qupQAsNYfVHmic=; b=REyfza793XvLwCmAbyDR3j41ku76wmjj9 t8ZPCQN8csyCmQMKvB42XV1AmWwt4wNNrxmwPC81RF5b8fAADR0pQalFI8qXYPT0 7/q14rkEhdtYWx6Ir/coc19eP4KQ2iDLO5MNs9cjC74Tfci0AMnCeGRILehn1Tbg zdS1YIVs1JnZtUmSbl0qDXyVGx7RDN2AtppERAi3Ke56NSptXrFZhqEyJaH0jf/o R7Q19bQDBPRh9KMpteNmIHQXlpkVdxrVY6aYJfkMqCrUCBayiLSBrdr/ZXf3zR2b tu/TkEybMrURbop9YitH5hmy4TK32Gu+HMKnytWHiS9lprsHPdZhg== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvvddrudejkedgtdehucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepfffhvffujgfkfhggtgesthdtredttddtvdenucfhrhhomhephfhinhhnucfv hhgrihhnuceofhhthhgrihhnsehlihhnuhigqdhmieekkhdrohhrgheqnecuggftrfgrth htvghrnhepffduhfegfedvieetudfgleeugeehkeekfeevfffhieevteelvdfhtdevffet uedunecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepfh hthhgrihhnsehlihhnuhigqdhmieekkhdrohhrgh X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Thu, 7 Apr 2022 04:34:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2022 18:34:15 +1000 (AEST) From: Finn Thain To: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz cc: Arnd Bergmann , Rob Landley , Geert Uytterhoeven , Christoph Hellwig , Linus Torvalds , Yoshinori Sato , Linux Kernel Mailing List , linux-arch , "moderated list:H8/300 ARCHITECTURE" , "open list:TENSILICA XTENSA PORT (xtensa)" , Max Filippov , Linux-sh list , linux-m68k , Greg Ungerer , Damien Le Moal , linux-riscv , Rich Felker Subject: Re: [RFC PULL] remove arch/h8300 In-Reply-To: <04c0374f-0044-c84d-1820-d743a4061906@physik.fu-berlin.de> Message-ID: References: <04c0374f-0044-c84d-1820-d743a4061906@physik.fu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20220407_013425_699410_94947F5B X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 15.79 ) X-BeenThere: linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: "linux-riscv" Errors-To: linux-riscv-bounces+linux-riscv=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On Thu, 7 Apr 2022, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 4/7/22 09:17, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 11:25 PM Rob Landley wrote: > > > >> I'm interested in H8300 because it's a tiny architecture (under 6k > >> lines total, in 93 files) and thus a good way to see what a minimal > >> Linux port looks like. If somebody would like to suggest a different > >> one for that... > > > > Anything that is maintained is usually a better example, and it helps > > when the code is not old enough to have accumulated a lot of historic > > baggage. > > But if it's not a lot of code, would it really accumulate a lot of > cruft? > Where you see "TODO" in Documentation/features/*/*/arch-support.txt it may mean that an architecture is preventing the removal of an old API. You're quite right, though, it is incorrect to call this an "accumulation" of baggage. It is actually the failure to remove cruft. (OTOH, shiny new things can be said to "accumulate". That's how cruft gets made.) _______________________________________________ linux-riscv mailing list linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-riscv