Re: [PATCH RFC net-next 00/15] net: stmmac: rk: cleanups galore

From: Jacob Keller <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Alexandre Torgue <alexandre.torgue@foss.st.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Heiko Stuebner" <heiko@sntech.de>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	<linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org>,
	<linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com>,
	Maxime Coquelin <mcoquelin.stm32@gmail.com>,
	<netdev@vger.kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC net-next 00/15] net: stmmac: rk: cleanups galore
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2025 16:50:31 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53d0efe0-f970-49ed-939b-d3a53dc7db86@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aS3EfuypsaGK6Ww_@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

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On 12/1/2025 8:38 AM, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> So, in future, I'm going to take the attitude that I will NAK
> contributions if I think there's a side issue that the contributor
> should also be addressing until that side issue is addressed.
> 
> This shouldn't be necessary, I wish this weren't necessary, and I wish
> people could be relied upon to do the right thing, but apparently it is
> going to take a stick (not merging their patches) to get them to co-
> operate. More fool me for trusting someone to do something.
> 

Yep this is unfortunately a reality of dealing with many contributors.
While its frustrating to require this.. If you don't, and end up never
getting things fixed the end result is worse.

As a maintainer, sometimes the only leverage you have is when someone
wants a contribution to merge. Balancing so that relevant improvements
and work get done while not being so harsh that contributors stop
returning is a difficult problem.

> I now have a couple of extra patches addressing my point raised in
> that email... which I myself shouldn't have had to write.
> 

:(

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