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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: "Luis Claudio R. Goncalves" <lgoncalv@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Clark Williams <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	David Vernet <dvernet@meta.com>, Barret Rhoden <brho@google.com>,
	Josh Don <joshdon@google.com>, Crystal Wood <crwood@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Wander Lairson Costa <wander@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6] sched: do not call __put_task_struct() on rt if pi_blocked_on is set
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2025 15:09:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250729130936.GB18541@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aIjCYEkgNvVpMYCS@uudg.org>

On 07/29, Luis Claudio R. Goncalves wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2025 at 01:47:03PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 07/29, Luis Claudio R. Goncalves wrote:
> > >
> > > +	/* In !RT, it is always safe to call __put_task_struct(). */
> > > +	if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT)) {
> > > +		static DEFINE_WAIT_OVERRIDE_MAP(put_task_map, LD_WAIT_SLEEP);
> > > +
> > > +		lock_map_acquire_try(&put_task_map);
> > > +		__put_task_struct(t);
> > > +		lock_map_release(&put_task_map);
> > > +		return;
> > > +	}
> >
> > FWIW:
> >
> > Acked-by: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
> >
> >
> > At the same time... I don't understand this DEFINE_WAIT_OVERRIDE_MAP().
> > IIUC, we need to shut up lockdep when put_task_struct() is called under
> > raw_spinlock_t and __put_task_struct() paths take spinlock_t, right?
> > Perhaps this deserves a comment...
>
> I reverted that code to the previous state, commit 893cdaaa3977 ("sched:
> avoid false lockdep splat in put_task_struct()") and simplified the "if"
> statement.

Yes, yes, I see and I have already acked your patch.

> In the original code, PREEMPT_RT could call __put_task_struct()
> if the context was preemptible. But in the proposed code __put_task_struct()
> is only called if PREEMPT_RT is disabled. In this case I believe we could
> simply do:
>
> +	if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT)) {
> +		__put_task_struct(t);
> +		return;
> +	}
>
> Does that make sense?

Hmm... But, again unless I am totally confused, we do need the
DEFINE_WAIT_OVERRIDE_MAP() trick even if !PREEMPT_RT ?

Looking at lockdep_wait_type, I think that with
CONFIG_PROVE_RAW_LOCK_NESTING=y lockdep enforces the PREEMPT_RT
locking rules even if PREEMPT_RT is not set?

But:

> > But if I am right, why LD_WAIT_SLEEP? LD_WAIT_CONFIG should equally work, no?
> >
> > LD_WAIT_SLEEP can fool lockdep more than we need, suppose that __put_task_struct()
> > does mutex_lock(). Not really a problem, might_sleep/etc will complain in this
> > case, but still.

I still think LD_WAIT_CONFIG makes more sense.

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-29 13:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-07 14:03 [PATCH v6] sched: do not call __put_task_struct() on rt if pi_blocked_on is set Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2025-07-10 16:19 ` Valentin Schneider
2025-07-14 14:15 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-28 20:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-07-29  7:33   ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2025-07-29 11:47     ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-07-29 12:45       ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2025-07-29 13:09         ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2025-08-01 10:24           ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-08-01 10:51             ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2025-08-11 10:59             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-08-11 11:06               ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-08-11 12:16                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-08-11 12:19                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2025-08-11 12:27                     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

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