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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "David Woodhouse" <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@suse.com>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"David Hildenbrand" <david@kernel.org>,
	"Lorenzo Stoakes" <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	"Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	"Mike Rapoport" <rppt@kernel.org>,
	"Suren Baghdasaryan" <surenb@google.com>,
	"Sebastian Andrzej Siewior" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	"Clark Williams" <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	"Sean Christopherson" <seanjc@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/mmu_notifier: Remove non_block_start/end() from notifier invocation
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2026 13:07:51 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260812160751.GE662699@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABgObfYjdQ13Gd9AH-kck85ZWch7j_E00rajawFuRdt5D=m3Sg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Aug 12, 2026 at 06:04:47PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > + * Atomic-flavor readers run with preemption disabled, so every
> > + * read-side critical section is bounded and running (not blocked) on
> > + * some CPU, which is what makes spinning here sane: the wait is
> > + * bounded by the longest such section. No index flip and no
> > + * grace-period sequence update occur, so concurrent call_srcu(),
> > + * synchronize_srcu() and srcu_barrier() are entirely unaffected.
> 
> Making synchronize_srcu_atomic() spin in CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT is a
> slightly tall request - it's basically putting it on the same level as
> raw_spinlock. But if the MMU notifier guys really want to make OOM
> notifiers atomic, this would be basically the only way to do so.

IMHO it is fine if PREEMPT_RT does something else, just that the
normal cases should follow the current arrangment where it is atomic

> If instead it's okay to remove nonblock_start/end under
> CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT, for RT kernels I'd rather avoid

This seems well agreed at least

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-12 16:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-11  8:58 [PATCH] mm/mmu_notifier: Remove non_block_start/end() from notifier invocation David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 13:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]   ` <1d669aca4ffee797b9c29215382444a5b23624b3.camel@infradead.org>
2026-08-11 14:27     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 14:33       ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 14:42         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-11 15:24           ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 15:30             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-12  8:14             ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-12  8:21               ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 12:27                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-12 13:46                   ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 13:49                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-12 14:05                       ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 14:26                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-12 14:38                           ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 14:34                         ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 15:03                           ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 15:49                             ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 16:20                               ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-12 17:17                                 ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 16:04                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-08-12 16:07                               ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-08-12 17:49                               ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12  8:13           ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-11 15:29         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 15:15       ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 15:24         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 15:29           ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 16:24             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 17:22               ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 17:26                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 17:59                   ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 18:19                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 20:06                       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-11 20:21                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-08-11 21:14                           ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 22:58                             ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-11 23:50                               ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 10:25                                 ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 16:07                                 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-11 20:29                         ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 15:12 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)

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