From: Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>
To: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>, Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
Cc: hannes@cmpxchg.org, hughd@google.com, mhocko@suse.com,
roman.gushchin@linux.dev, muchun.song@linux.dev,
david@redhat.com, lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, ziy@nvidia.com,
imran.f.khan@oracle.com, kamalesh.babulal@oracle.com,
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akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
Clark Williams <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 04/26] mm: vmscan: refactor move_folios_to_lru()
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2025 12:30:06 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2a68bddf-e6e6-4960-b5bc-1a39d747ea9b@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aRFKY5VGEujVOqBc@hyeyoo>
On 11/10/25 10:13 AM, Harry Yoo wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 07, 2025 at 10:32:52PM -0800, Shakeel Butt wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 07, 2025 at 10:20:57PM +0900, Harry Yoo wrote:
>>>
>>> Although it's mentioned in the locking documentation, I'm afraid that
>>> local_lock is not the right interface to use here. Preemption will be
>>> disabled anyway (on both PREEMPT_RT and !PREEMPT_RT) when the stats are
>>> updated (in __mod_node_page_state()).
>>>
>>> Here we just want to disable IRQ only on !PREEMPT_RT (to update
>>> the stats safely).
>>
>> I don't think there is a need to disable IRQs. There are three stats
>> update functions called in that hunk.
>>
>> 1) __mod_lruvec_state
>> 2) __count_vm_events
>> 3) count_memcg_events
>>
>> count_memcg_events() can be called with IRQs. __count_vm_events can be
>> replaced with count_vm_events.
>
> Right.
>
>> For __mod_lruvec_state, the
>> __mod_node_page_state() inside needs preemption disabled.
>
> The function __mod_node_page_state() disables preemption.
> And there's a comment in __mod_zone_page_state():
>
>> /*
>> * Accurate vmstat updates require a RMW. On !PREEMPT_RT kernels,
>> * atomicity is provided by IRQs being disabled -- either explicitly
>> * or via local_lock_irq. On PREEMPT_RT, local_lock_irq only disables
>> * CPU migrations and preemption potentially corrupts a counter so
>> * disable preemption.
>> */
>> preempt_disable_nested();
>
> We're relying on IRQs being disabled on !PREEMPT_RT.
So it's possible for us to update vmstat within an interrupt context,
right?
There is also a comment above __mod_zone_page_state():
/*
* For use when we know that interrupts are disabled,
* or when we know that preemption is disabled and that
* particular counter cannot be updated from interrupt context.
*/
BTW, the comment inside __mod_node_page_state() should be:
/* See __mod_zone_page_state */
instead of
/* See __mod_node_page_state */
Will fix it.
>
> Maybe we could make it safe against re-entrant IRQ handlers by using
> read-modify-write operations?
Isn't it because of the RMW operation that we need to use IRQ to
guarantee atomicity? Or have I misunderstood something?
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-10 4:30 UTC|newest]
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[not found] ` <97ea4728568459f501ddcab6c378c29064630bb9.1761658310.git.zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>
2025-11-07 5:11 ` [PATCH v1 04/26] mm: vmscan: refactor move_folios_to_lru() Harry Yoo
2025-11-07 6:41 ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-07 13:20 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-08 6:32 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-11-10 2:13 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-10 4:30 ` Qi Zheng [this message]
2025-11-10 5:43 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-10 6:11 ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-10 16:47 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-11-11 0:42 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-11 3:04 ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-11 3:16 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-11 3:23 ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-11 8:49 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-11 16:44 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-11-12 7:49 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-12 8:46 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-12 8:54 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-12 15:45 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-11 3:17 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-11-11 3:24 ` Qi Zheng
2025-11-07 7:18 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
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