From: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>
To: Harry Yoo <harry@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Hao Li <hao.li@linux.dev>, Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
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Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev, rcu@vger.kernel.org,
bpf@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH for-next v3 6/9] mm/slab: allow kfree_rcu_sheaf() on PREEMPT_RT
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2026 07:38:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9d8ca1ed-bc53-417f-944b-d78eecd1e6a5@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <40591888-3a87-433e-b3d2-cda1cab543be@kernel.org>
On 6/17/26 07:14, Harry Yoo wrote:
>
>
> On 6/17/26 2:24 AM, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
>> On 6/15/26 13:06, Harry Yoo (Oracle) wrote:
>>> As suggested by Vlastimil Babka, kfree_rcu_sheaf() can be used
>>> on PREEMPT_RT if we always assume spinning is not allowed on PREEMPT_RT.
>>> This is because local_trylock and spinlock_t are safe to use with
>>> trylock variant as long as the kernel does not spin and the context is
>>> not NMI and not hardirq.
>>>
>>> Now that __kfree_rcu_sheaf() knows how to handle allow_spin = false,
>>> relax the limitation and try the sheaves path on PREEMPT_RT as well.
>>>
>>> Keep the lockdep map on non RT kernels. However, do not use the lockdep
>>> map on PREEMPT_RT to avoid suppressing valid lockdep warnings.
>>>
>>> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/6811cc17-8ee4-48c8-8cbf-6bf4d9f98162@kernel.org
>>> Suggested-by: Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) <vbabka@kernel.org>
>>> Signed-off-by: Harry Yoo (Oracle) <harry@kernel.org>
>>
>> LGTM, but maybe unnecessary pessimistic wrt call_rcu() on PREEMPT_RT?
>> I thought (in the Link: above) we'd only need to downgrade allow_spin to
>> false on PREEMPT_RT for handling sheaves movement from/to barn and
>> alloc_empty_sheaf(), but call_rcu() would be safe from kfree_rcu() even on
>> RT?
>
> Indeed. Good point, thanks!
>
> Hmm, but I'm not sure that it's worth the complexity given that
> PREEMPT_RT tries very hard to avoid disabling IRQs...
>
>> Or is the irqs_disabled() condition rare enough so we don't care?
>
> Given that most users don't call kfree_rcu() under raw spinlock or
> IRQs-disabled section on PREEMPT_RT, I think it's okay to keep it as is
> (it's not making things worse, at least) and wait for call_rcu_nolock()?
Sounds good.
> On a side note, I don't have much idea on what needs to call kfree_rcu()
> under a raw spinlock, other than set_cpus_allowed_force(), which should
> really be using kfree_nolock() instead of kfree_rcu() once we support
> kmalloc() -> kfree_nolock():
Looks like the case. Well if the fallback path of kfree_nolock() that is
irq_work_queue() is indeed safe here.
>> /*
>> * Because this is called with p->pi_lock held, it is not possible
>> * to use kfree() here (when PREEMPT_RT=y), therefore punt to using
>> * kfree_rcu().
>> */
>> kfree_rcu((union cpumask_rcuhead *)ac.user_mask, rcu);
>
> Any thoughts, RCU/RT folks?
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-17 5:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-15 11:05 [PATCH for-next v3 0/9] mm/slab: introduce kfree_rcu_nolock() and improve slub_kunit coverage Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-06-15 11:05 ` [PATCH for-next v3 1/9] slub_kunit: fall back to SW perf events when HW PMU is not available Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-06-15 11:14 ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-15 12:58 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-15 20:01 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-06-16 5:23 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-15 11:05 ` [PATCH for-next v3 2/9] mm/slab, slub_kunit: register kprobe to trigger _nolock APIs Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-06-15 11:25 ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-15 20:04 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-06-16 6:57 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-15 11:05 ` [PATCH for-next v3 3/9] mm/slab: handle the !allow_spin case in kfree_rcu_sheaf() Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-06-15 11:24 ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-16 7:55 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-16 9:20 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-17 5:32 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-17 5:58 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-15 11:05 ` [PATCH for-next v3 4/9] mm/slab: use call_rcu() in unknown context if irqs are enabled Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-06-15 11:25 ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-16 9:51 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-15 11:05 ` [PATCH for-next v3 5/9] mm/slab: extend deferred free mechanism to handle rcu sheaves Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-06-15 11:24 ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-16 13:03 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-15 11:06 ` [PATCH for-next v3 6/9] mm/slab: allow kfree_rcu_sheaf() on PREEMPT_RT Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-06-15 11:19 ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-16 17:24 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-17 5:14 ` Harry Yoo
2026-06-17 5:38 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) [this message]
2026-06-15 11:06 ` [PATCH for-next v3 7/9] mm/slab: introduce kfree_rcu_nolock() Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-06-15 11:22 ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-16 17:28 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-15 11:06 ` [PATCH for-next v3 8/9] mm/slab: introduce struct kfree_rcu_head and use in kfree_rcu_nolock() Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-06-15 11:22 ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-16 17:36 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-15 11:06 ` [PATCH for-next v3 9/9] slub_kunit: extend the test for kfree_rcu_nolock() Harry Yoo (Oracle)
2026-06-16 17:38 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-15 11:43 ` [PATCH for-next v3 0/9] mm/slab: introduce kfree_rcu_nolock() and improve slub_kunit coverage Harry Yoo
2026-06-15 20:28 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-06-16 4:57 ` Harry Yoo
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