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From: Crystal Wood <crwood@redhat.com>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot	 <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Clark Williams <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Ben Segall	 <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider	 <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Attila Fazekas	 <afazekas@redhat.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, 	linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev,
	Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	Mahesh J Salgaonkar <mahesh@linux.ibm.com>,
	Oliver OHalloran <oohall@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] genirq/manage: Reduce priority of forced secondary IRQ handler
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2025 16:00:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <de1ec7fcc1711e3062cc321ab55552339630de30.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251024133332.wSQOgUZb@linutronix.de>

On Fri, 2025-10-24 at 15:33 +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2025-10-03 13:25:53 [-0500], Crystal Wood wrote:
> > On Sun, 2025-09-21 at 15:12 +0200, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> > > On Sat, Sep 20, 2025 at 11:20:26PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > > > I obviously understand that the proposed change squashs the whole class
> > > > of similar (not yet detected) issues, but that made me look at that
> > > > particular instance nevertheless.
> > > > 
> > > > All aer_irq() does is reading two PCI config words, writing one and then
> > > > sticking 64bytes into a KFIFO. All of that is hard interrupt safe. So
> > > > arguably this AER problem can be nicely solved by the below one-liner,
> > > > no?
> > > 
> > > The one-liner (which sets IRQF_NO_THREAD) was what Crystal originally
> > > proposed:
> > > 
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/r/20250902224441.368483-1-crwood@redhat.com/
> > 
> > So, is the plan to apply the original patch then?
> 
> Did we settle on something?
> I wasn't sure if you can mix IRQF_NO_THREAD with IRQF_ONESHOT for shared
> handlers. If that is a thing, we Crystal's original would do it.

Do you mean mixing IRQF_NO_THREAD on this irq (which should eliminate
the forced IRQF_ONESHOT) with another shared irq that still has
IRQF_ONESHOT?

I suspect it was a non-issue because of IRQCHIP_ONESHOT_SAFE disabling
the forced oneshot (the other irq was pciehp).  Given that these are
pcie-specific, do they ever get used without MSI (which sets
IRQCHIP_ONESHOT_SAFE)[1]?

The issue seems to be that the type of oneshot we want for forced
threading (unmask after the first user-supplied handler) is different
from what we want for explicit IRQF_ONESHOT (unmask after the last
user-supplied handler).  If we separated those, then the semantics
would better match non-RT, and we'd only need to care about mixing
when it comes to explicit IRQF_NOSHOT.

> Then there is the question if we want to go the "class" problem to
> ensure that one handler can preempt the other.  And maybe I should
> clean up few ones tglx pointed out that provide a primary handler for
> no reason…

Either way works for me, as long as we pick at least one :-)

-Crystal

[1] I realize that the answer to "has any hardware designer ever
done this weird and bad thing?" is usually yes. :-P


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-24 21:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-08 16:08 [PATCH] genirq/manage: Reduce priority of forced secondary IRQ handler Lukas Wunner
2025-09-17 14:56 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-09-20 21:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-21 13:12   ` Lukas Wunner
2025-09-21 18:15     ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-03 18:25     ` Crystal Wood
2025-10-24 13:33       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-10-24 21:00         ` Crystal Wood [this message]
2025-10-27  6:40           ` Lukas Wunner
2025-10-27  8:18             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

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