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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>
Cc: mingo@elte.hu, rostedt@goodmis.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org,
	dbahi@novell.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] sched: only run newidle if previous task was CFS
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:38:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1214303888.4351.24.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1214301517.4351.12.camel@twins>

On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 11:58 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 17:04 -0600, Gregory Haskins wrote:
> > A system that tends to overschedule (such as PREEMPT_RT) will naturally
> > tend to newidle balance often as well.  This may have quite a negative
> > impact on performance.  This patch attempts to address the overzealous
> > newidle balancing by only allowing it to occur if the previous task
> > was SCHED_OTHER.
> > 
> > Some may argue that if the system is going idle, it should try to
> > newidle balance to keep it doing useful work.  But the fact is that
> > spending too much time in the load-balancing code demonstrably hurts
> > performance as well.  Running oprofile on the system with various
> > workloads has shown that we can sometimes spend a majority of our
> > cpu-time running load_balance_newidle.  Additionally, disabling
> > newidle balancing can make said workloads increase in performance by
> > up to 200%.  Obviously disabling the feature outright is not sustainable,
> > but hopefully we can make it smarter. 
> > 
> > This code assumes that if there arent any CFS tasks present on the queue,
> > it was probably already balanced.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>
> 
> NAK, this wrecks idle balance for any potential other classes.
> 
> idle_balance() is the generical hook - as can be seen from the class
> iteration in move_tasks().
> 
> I can imagine paritioned EDF wanting to make use of these hooks to
> balance the reservations.

Hmm, it wouldn't,.. since its too tied in with fbg which is sched_other
based,..

would need more generalization work,..




  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-24 10:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-23 23:04 [PATCH 0/3] RT: scheduler newidle enhancements Gregory Haskins
2008-06-23 23:04 ` [PATCH 1/3] sched: enable interrupts and drop rq-lock during newidle balancing Gregory Haskins
2008-06-24  0:11   ` Steven Rostedt
2008-06-24 10:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-24 13:15     ` [PATCH 1/3] sched: enable interrupts and drop rq-lock duringnewidle balancing Gregory Haskins
2008-06-24 12:24       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-24 12:39         ` [PATCH 1/3] sched: enable interrupts and drop rq-lockduringnewidle balancing Gregory Haskins
2008-06-23 23:04 ` [PATCH 2/3] sched: only run newidle if previous task was CFS Gregory Haskins
2008-06-24  9:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-24 10:38     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2008-06-23 23:04 ` [PATCH 3/3] sched: terminate newidle balancing once at least one task has moved over Gregory Haskins
2008-06-24  0:50   ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-24  1:07     ` Steven Rostedt
2008-06-24  1:26       ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-24  2:39     ` Gregory Haskins
2008-06-24  1:46       ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-24  2:59         ` Gregory Haskins
2008-06-24 10:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-24 13:18     ` [PATCH 3/3] sched: terminate newidle balancing once at leastone " Gregory Haskins
2008-06-24 13:31       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-24 16:55         ` [PATCH 3/3] sched: terminate newidle balancing once atleastone " Gregory Haskins
2008-06-24 19:44           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-06-24  0:15 ` [PATCH 0/3] RT: scheduler newidle enhancements Steven Rostedt
2008-06-24  1:51 ` Gregory Haskins

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