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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	pjt@google.com, paul.mckenney@linaro.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	tj@kernel.org, suresh.b.siddha@intel.com, venki@google.com,
	mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, Arvind.Chauhan@arm.com,
	linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org, patches@linaro.org,
	pdsw-power-team@arm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 Resend 0/4] Create sched_select_cpu() and use it for workqueues and timers
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:17:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1353957477.6276.51.camel@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121126190354.GJ2474@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 11:03 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:35:52PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 09:03 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > If I understand correctly (though also suffering turkey OD), the idea is
> > > to offload work to more energy-efficient CPUs.
> > 
> > This is determined by a CPU that isn't running the idle task? Is it
> > because a CPU that just woke up may be running at a lower freq, and thus
> > not as efficient? But pushing off to another CPU may cause cache misses
> > as well. Wouldn't that also be a factor in efficiencies, if a CPU is
> > stalled waiting for memory to be loaded?
> 
> Two different microarchitectures -- same instruction set (at user level,
> anyway), but different power/performance characteristics.  One set is
> optimized for performance, the other for energy efficiency.  For example,
> ARM's big.LITTLE architecture.
> 

But I don't see anything in the patch set that guarantees that we will
be moving something off to one of the "big" cores. The only heuristic
that is used is if the CPU is idle or not. In fact, if the big core was
idle we may be pushing work off to a "LITTLE" CPU.

Again, work is only run on the CPU it was queued on (which this patch
set is trying to change). Thus, only work that would be queued on a
LITTLE CPU is by something that ran on that CPU.

I'm still having a bit of trouble understanding where the benefit comes
from.

-- Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-26 19:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-06 10:34 [PATCH V2 Resend 0/4] Create sched_select_cpu() and use it for workqueues and timers Viresh Kumar
     [not found] ` <cover.1352196505.git.viresh.kumar-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-06 10:38   ` [PATCH V2 Resend 1/4] sched: Create sched_select_cpu() to give preferred CPU for power saving Viresh Kumar
2012-11-06 10:38   ` [PATCH V2 Resend 2/4] timer: hrtimer: Don't check idle_cpu() before calling get_nohz_timer_target() Viresh Kumar
2012-11-06 10:38   ` [PATCH V2 Resend 4/4] timer: Migrate running timer Viresh Kumar
2012-11-27 13:47     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-03-20 15:13       ` Viresh Kumar
2013-04-09 14:52         ` Viresh Kumar
2013-04-24 11:22           ` Viresh Kumar
2013-05-13  9:19             ` Viresh Kumar
2013-05-13 10:35               ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-05-22  8:34                 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-05-22  9:06                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-22  9:23                     ` Viresh Kumar
2013-05-31 10:49                   ` Viresh Kumar
2013-06-18  4:51                     ` Viresh Kumar
2013-07-24  9:17                       ` Viresh Kumar
2013-08-07  9:55                         ` Viresh Kumar
2013-10-04 12:39                           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2013-10-23  5:55                             ` Viresh Kumar
2012-11-06 10:38 ` [PATCH V2 Resend 3/4] workqueue: Schedule work on non-idle cpu instead of current one Viresh Kumar
     [not found]   ` <ad25c731a6ca1bd1269555245952f05c856a9759.1352196505.git.viresh.kumar-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-26 17:15     ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-27  5:19       ` Viresh Kumar
2012-11-27 12:54         ` Vincent Guittot
     [not found]         ` <CAKohpom9=K976NmyFWtXx2UQyRcLAqsoGw-5AaqXRpSL6uxP_g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-04 11:11           ` Viresh Kumar
2013-01-04 15:09             ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-07  9:58               ` Viresh Kumar
2013-01-07 13:28                 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-01-07 17:59                   ` Viresh Kumar
2013-01-07 22:29                     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-01-08  4:03                       ` Viresh Kumar
2013-01-07 15:04                 ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-07 15:40                   ` Amit Kucheria
2013-01-07 18:07                   ` Viresh Kumar
2013-01-09 18:49                     ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-10  5:04                       ` Viresh Kumar
2012-11-27 13:26   ` Steven Rostedt
2012-11-27 13:48     ` Viresh Kumar
2012-11-27 13:59       ` Steven Rostedt
2012-11-27 14:55         ` Vincent Guittot
2012-11-27 15:04           ` Steven Rostedt
2012-11-27 15:35             ` Vincent Guittot
2012-11-26 15:00 ` [PATCH V2 Resend 0/4] Create sched_select_cpu() and use it for workqueues and timers Viresh Kumar
2012-11-26 16:40   ` Steven Rostedt
     [not found]     ` <1353948027.6276.38.camel-f9ZlEuEWxVcJvu8Pb33WZ0EMvNT87kid@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-26 17:03       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-26 17:35         ` Steven Rostedt
     [not found]           ` <1353951352.6276.43.camel-f9ZlEuEWxVcJvu8Pb33WZ0EMvNT87kid@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-26 19:03             ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-26 19:17               ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2012-11-27  6:25     ` Viresh Kumar

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