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From: "Patel, Vedang" <vedang.patel@intel.com>
To: "tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: "ranshalit@gmail.com" <ranshalit@gmail.com>,
	"julia@ni.com" <julia@ni.com>,
	"linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>,
	"bigeasy@linutronix.de" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	"tlsmith3777@gmail.com" <tlsmith3777@gmail.com>,
	"darren.hart@intel.com" <darren.hart@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Regression on rt kernel while using POSIX timers
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 22:54:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1490050481.15509.14.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1703071800330.3584@nanos>

Hi Thomas, 

Thanks for all your input.

On Tue, 2017-03-07 at 18:03 +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Mar 2017, Patel, Vedang wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, 2017-03-06 at 12:29 +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > This is simple to achieve for timers where the signal is directed
> > > to
> > > a thread, but it's way more complex for process wide signal
> > > delivery.
> > > 
> > So, does this mean that we should be asking people not to use POSIX
> > timers until this is corrected?
> Well, we always recommended clock_nanosleep() to be used and to avoid
> signal based timers when ever possible.

I have 2 questions:

1. I see a regression for POSIX timers on real-time kernel from the
mainline kernel for the kernel versions I am using. Has anyone else
seen this? I have tested multiple kernels (4.1, 4.4, 4.9.4) and I am
seeing a regression in all of those. Is this something we expect
because of changes in softirqs?

2. If there is indeed a regression, what is the best way to document
this? I think posting results on https://wiki.linuxfoundation.org/realt
ime/documentation/howto/tools/cyclictest and pointing out regressions
will be one way.

Thanks,
Vedang

> 
> > 
> > Also, Is there a way to specify which ktimersoftd thread
> > (essentially
> > selecting a particular CPU)to use while creating a timer?
> > Currently,
> > the ktimersoftd thread corresponding to the thread on which the CPU
> > is
> > running is being used by cyclictest. This would prevent the bounce
> > between ktimersoftd and cyclictest thread when both of them are on
> > the
> > same CPU.
> Nope. This is even more complex than you describe it and no, we
> definitely
> don't want to think about this in the first place.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 	tglx
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-20 22:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-08 18:41 Regression on rt kernel while using POSIX timers Patel, Vedang
2017-02-10 19:07 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2017-02-13 18:48   ` Patel, Vedang
2017-02-15 16:54     ` bigeasy
2017-02-16  2:05       ` Julia Cartwright
2017-02-16  2:34         ` Patel, Vedang
2017-02-22  1:43           ` Patel, Vedang
2017-03-01 15:22             ` bigeasy
2017-03-01 19:03               ` Tracy Smith
2017-03-02  3:23                 ` Patel, Vedang
2017-03-03 19:41                   ` Julia Cartwright
2017-03-03 20:32                     ` Julia Cartwright
2017-03-03 21:09                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-03-03 23:36                       ` Patel, Vedang
2017-03-06 11:29                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-03-07  2:01                           ` Patel, Vedang
2017-03-07 17:03                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-03-20 22:54                               ` Patel, Vedang [this message]
2017-03-03 16:51                 ` Thomas Gleixner
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2017-02-13 20:32 Ran Shalit

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