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From: "Patel, Vedang" <vedang.patel@intel.com>
To: "juri.lelli@gmail.com" <juri.lelli@gmail.com>,
	"peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Koppolu, Chanakya" <chanakya.koppolu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: yielding while running SCHED_DEADLINE
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 17:14:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1537204460.3250.4.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180917114219.GE24106@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, 2018-09-17 at 13:42 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 11:26:48AM +0200, Juri Lelli wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On 14/09/18 23:13, Patel, Vedang wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi all, 
> > > 
> > > We have been playing around with SCHED_DEADLINE and found some
> > > discrepancy around the calculation of nr_involuntary_switches and
> > > nr_voluntary_switches in /proc/${PID}/sched.
> > > 
> > > Whenever the task is done with it's work earlier and executes
> > > sched_yield() to voluntarily gives up the CPU this increments
> > > nr_involuntary_switches. It should have incremented
> > > nr_voluntary_switches.
> > Mmm, I see what you are saying.
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > > 
> > > Looking at __schedule() in kernel/sched/core.c, the switch is
> > > counted
> > > as part of nr_involuntary_switches if the task has not been
> > > preempted
> > > and the task is TASK_RUNNING state. This does not seem to happen
> > > when
> > > sched_yield() is called.
> > Mmm,
> > 
> >  - nr_voluntary_switches++ if !preempt && !RUNNING
> >  - nr_involuntary_switches++ otherwise (yield fits this as the task
> > is
> >    still RUNNING, even though throttled for DEADLINE)
> > 
> > Not sure this is the same as what you say above..
> > 
> > > 
> > > Is there something we are missing over here? OR Is this a known
> > > issue
> > > and is planned to be fixed later?
> > .. however, not sure. Peter, what you say. It looks like we might
> > indeed
> > want to account yield as a voluntary switch, seems to fit. In this
> > case
> > I guess we could use a flag or add a sched_ bit to task_struct to
> > handle
> > the case?
> It's been like this _forever_ afaict. This isn't deadline specific
> afaict, all yield callers will end up in non-voluntary switches.
> 
> I don't know anybody that cares and I don't think this is something
> worth fixing. If someone did rely on this behaviour we'd break them,
> and
> i'd much rather save a cycle than add more stupid stats crap to the
> scheduler.
Thanks Peter and Juri for the response.

We will try to use a different mechanism to account for this.

-Vedang

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-17 22:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-14 23:13 yielding while running SCHED_DEADLINE Patel, Vedang
2018-09-17  9:26 ` Juri Lelli
2018-09-17 11:42   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-17 17:14     ` Patel, Vedang [this message]
2018-09-21  0:19     ` Bowles, Matthew K

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