From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt-nx8X9YLhiw1AfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: venki-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
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Viresh Kumar
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 Resend 0/4] Create sched_select_cpu() and use it for workqueues and timers
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 09:03:58 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121126170358.GE2474@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1353948027.6276.38.camel-f9ZlEuEWxVcJvu8Pb33WZ0EMvNT87kid@public.gmane.org>
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:40:27AM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-11-26 at 20:30 +0530, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> > On 6 November 2012 16:08, Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > This is V2 Resend of my sched_select_cpu() work. Resend because didn't got much
> > > attention on V2. Including more guys now in cc :)
> > >
> > > In order to save power, it would be useful to schedule work onto non-IDLE cpus
> > > instead of waking up an IDLE one.
> > >
> > > To achieve this, we need scheduler to guide kernel frameworks (like: timers &
> > > workqueues) on which is the most preferred CPU that must be used for these
> > > tasks.
> > >
> > > This patchset is about implementing this concept.
> > >
> > > - The first patch adds sched_select_cpu() routine which returns the preferred
> > > cpu which is non-idle.
> > > - Second patch removes idle_cpu() calls from timer & hrtimer.
> > > - Third patch is about adapting this change in workqueue framework.
> > > - Fourth patch add migration capability in running timer
> > >
> > > Earlier discussions over v1 can be found here:
> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/linaro-dev-cunTk1MwBs8s++Sfvej+rw@public.gmane.org/msg13342.html
> > >
> > > Earlier discussions over this concept were done at last LPC:
> > > http://summit.linuxplumbersconf.org/lpc-2012/meeting/90/lpc2012-sched-timer-workqueue/
> > >
> > > Module created for testing this behavior is present here:
> > > http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=people/vireshk/module.git;a=summary
> >
> > Ping!!
>
> This is a really bad time of year to post new patches :-/
> A lot of people are trying to get their own work done by year end and
> then there's holidays and such that are also distractions. Not to
> mention that a new merge window will be opening soon.
>
> That said...
>
> As workqueues are set off by the CPU that queued it, what real benefit
> does this give? A CPU was active when it queued the work and the work
> should be done before it gets back to sleep.
>
> OK, an interrupt happens on an idle CPU and queues some work. That work
> should execute before the CPU gets back to sleep, right? I fail to see
> the benefit of trying to move that work elsewhere. The CPU had to wake
> up to execute the interrupt. It's no longer in a deep sleep (or any
> sleep for that matter).
>
> To me it seems best to avoid waking up an idle CPU in the first place.
>
> I'm still working off a turkey overdose, so maybe I'm missing something
> obvious.
If I understand correctly (though also suffering turkey OD), the idea is
to offload work to more energy-efficient CPUs.
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-11-26 17:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-11-06 10:34 [PATCH V2 Resend 0/4] Create sched_select_cpu() and use it for workqueues and timers Viresh Kumar
2012-11-06 10:38 ` [PATCH V2 Resend 3/4] workqueue: Schedule work on non-idle cpu instead of current one Viresh Kumar
[not found] ` <ad25c731a6ca1bd1269555245952f05c856a9759.1352196505.git.viresh.kumar-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-26 17:15 ` Tejun Heo
2012-11-27 5:19 ` Viresh Kumar
2012-11-27 12:54 ` Vincent Guittot
[not found] ` <CAKohpom9=K976NmyFWtXx2UQyRcLAqsoGw-5AaqXRpSL6uxP_g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-04 11:11 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-01-04 15:09 ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-07 9:58 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-01-07 13:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-01-07 17:59 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-01-07 22:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-01-08 4:03 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-01-07 15:04 ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-07 15:40 ` Amit Kucheria
2013-01-07 18:07 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-01-09 18:49 ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-10 5:04 ` Viresh Kumar
2012-11-27 13:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-11-27 13:48 ` Viresh Kumar
2012-11-27 13:59 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-11-27 14:55 ` Vincent Guittot
2012-11-27 15:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-11-27 15:35 ` Vincent Guittot
[not found] ` <cover.1352196505.git.viresh.kumar-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-06 10:38 ` [PATCH V2 Resend 1/4] sched: Create sched_select_cpu() to give preferred CPU for power saving Viresh Kumar
2012-11-06 10:38 ` [PATCH V2 Resend 2/4] timer: hrtimer: Don't check idle_cpu() before calling get_nohz_timer_target() Viresh Kumar
2012-11-06 10:38 ` [PATCH V2 Resend 4/4] timer: Migrate running timer Viresh Kumar
2012-11-27 13:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-03-20 15:13 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-04-09 14:52 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-04-24 11:22 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-05-13 9:19 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-05-13 10:35 ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-05-22 8:34 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-05-22 9:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-22 9:23 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-05-31 10:49 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-06-18 4:51 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-07-24 9:17 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-08-07 9:55 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-10-04 12:39 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2013-10-23 5:55 ` Viresh Kumar
2012-11-26 15:00 ` [PATCH V2 Resend 0/4] Create sched_select_cpu() and use it for workqueues and timers Viresh Kumar
2012-11-26 16:40 ` Steven Rostedt
[not found] ` <1353948027.6276.38.camel-f9ZlEuEWxVcJvu8Pb33WZ0EMvNT87kid@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-26 17:03 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2012-11-26 17:35 ` Steven Rostedt
[not found] ` <1353951352.6276.43.camel-f9ZlEuEWxVcJvu8Pb33WZ0EMvNT87kid@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-26 19:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-26 19:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-11-27 6:25 ` Viresh Kumar
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