From: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 Resend 3/4] workqueue: Schedule work on non-idle cpu instead of current one
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 09:15:39 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121126171539.GZ15971@htj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ad25c731a6ca1bd1269555245952f05c856a9759.1352196505.git.viresh.kumar-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Hello, Viresh.
On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 04:08:45PM +0530, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> Workqueues queues work on current cpu, if the caller haven't passed a preferred
> cpu. This may wake up an idle CPU, which is actually not required.
>
> This work can be processed by any CPU and so we must select a non-idle CPU here.
> This patch adds in support in workqueue framework to get preferred CPU details
> from the scheduler, instead of using current CPU.
>
> Most of the time when a work is queued, the current cpu isn't idle and so we
> will choose it only. There are cases when a cpu is idle when it queues some
> work. For example, consider following scenario:
> - A cpu has programmed a timer and is IDLE now.
> - CPU gets into interrupt handler due to timer and queues a work. As the CPU is
> currently IDLE, we can queue this work to some other CPU.
I'm pretty skeptical about this. queue_work() w/o explicit CPU
assignment has always guaranteed that the work item will be executed
on the same CPU. I don't think there are too many users depending on
that but am not sure at all that there are none. I asked you last
time that you would at the very least need to audit most users but it
doesn't seem like there has been any effort there. Given the
seemingly low rate of migration and subtlety of such bugs, things
could get nasty to debug.
That said, if the obtained benefit is big enough, sure, we can
definitely change the behavior, which isn't all that great to begin
with, and try to shake out the bugs quicky by e.g. forcing all work
items to execute on different CPUs, but you're presenting a few
percent of work items being migrated to a different CPU from an
already active CPU, which doesn't seem like such a big benefit to me
even if the migration target CPU is somewhat more efficient. How much
powersaving are we talking about?
Thanks.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-11-26 17:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-11-06 10:34 [PATCH V2 Resend 0/4] Create sched_select_cpu() and use it for workqueues and timers Viresh Kumar
[not found] ` <cover.1352196505.git.viresh.kumar-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-06 10:38 ` [PATCH V2 Resend 1/4] sched: Create sched_select_cpu() to give preferred CPU for power saving Viresh Kumar
2012-11-06 10:38 ` [PATCH V2 Resend 2/4] timer: hrtimer: Don't check idle_cpu() before calling get_nohz_timer_target() Viresh Kumar
2012-11-06 10:38 ` [PATCH V2 Resend 4/4] timer: Migrate running timer Viresh Kumar
2012-11-27 13:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-03-20 15:13 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-04-09 14:52 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-04-24 11:22 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-05-13 9:19 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-05-13 10:35 ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-05-22 8:34 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-05-22 9:06 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-05-22 9:23 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-05-31 10:49 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-06-18 4:51 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-07-24 9:17 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-08-07 9:55 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-10-04 12:39 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2013-10-23 5:55 ` Viresh Kumar
2012-11-06 10:38 ` [PATCH V2 Resend 3/4] workqueue: Schedule work on non-idle cpu instead of current one Viresh Kumar
[not found] ` <ad25c731a6ca1bd1269555245952f05c856a9759.1352196505.git.viresh.kumar-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-26 17:15 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2012-11-27 5:19 ` Viresh Kumar
2012-11-27 12:54 ` Vincent Guittot
[not found] ` <CAKohpom9=K976NmyFWtXx2UQyRcLAqsoGw-5AaqXRpSL6uxP_g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-04 11:11 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-01-04 15:09 ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-07 9:58 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-01-07 13:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-01-07 17:59 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-01-07 22:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-01-08 4:03 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-01-07 15:04 ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-07 15:40 ` Amit Kucheria
2013-01-07 18:07 ` Viresh Kumar
2013-01-09 18:49 ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-10 5:04 ` Viresh Kumar
2012-11-27 13:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-11-27 13:48 ` Viresh Kumar
2012-11-27 13:59 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-11-27 14:55 ` Vincent Guittot
2012-11-27 15:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-11-27 15:35 ` Vincent Guittot
2012-11-26 15:00 ` [PATCH V2 Resend 0/4] Create sched_select_cpu() and use it for workqueues and timers Viresh Kumar
2012-11-26 16:40 ` Steven Rostedt
[not found] ` <1353948027.6276.38.camel-f9ZlEuEWxVcJvu8Pb33WZ0EMvNT87kid@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-26 17:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-26 17:35 ` Steven Rostedt
[not found] ` <1353951352.6276.43.camel-f9ZlEuEWxVcJvu8Pb33WZ0EMvNT87kid@public.gmane.org>
2012-11-26 19:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-11-26 19:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-11-27 6:25 ` Viresh Kumar
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