From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Paul E. McKenney" Subject: Re: [PATCH documentation 1/2] nohz1: Add documentation. Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 12:14:42 -0700 Message-ID: <20130411191442.GP29861@linux.vnet.ibm.com> References: <20130411160524.GA30384@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <1365696359-30958-1-git-send-email-paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <5166EF74.4030106@linux.intel.com> <20130411182727.GM29861@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20130411184313.GH22229@in.ibm.com> Reply-To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Arjan van de Ven , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca, josh@joshtriplett.org, niv@us.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org, rostedt@goodmis.org, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, darren@dvhart.com, fweisbec@gmail.com, sbw@mit.edu, Borislav Petkov , Kevin Hilman , Christoph Lameter , arnd@arndb.de, Robin.Randhawa@arm.com, linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org To: Dipankar Sarma Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20130411184313.GH22229@in.ibm.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-rt-users.vger.kernel.org On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 12:13:13AM +0530, Dipankar Sarma wrote: > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:27:27AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:14:28AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > >+2. Many architectures will place dyntick-idle CPUs into deep sleep > > > >+ states, which further degrades from-idle transition latencies. > > > >+ > > > I think this part should just be deleted. > > > On x86, the deeper idle states are even used with non-tickless system (the break even times are > > > quite a bit less than even 1 msec). > > > I can't imagine that ARM is worse on this, at which point the statement above is highly dubious > > > > Interesting point, and I freely admit that I don't have full knowledge > > of the energy-consumption characteristics of all the architectures that > > Linux supports. Adding a few of the ARM guys on CC for their take, > > plus linux-rt-users. > > > > If there are no objections, I will delete point 2 above as Arjan suggests. > > What Arjan said will also be true for Linux on Power systems. I am not > sure "many architectures" would be the right way to characterize it. Very well, I count one non-objection to Arjan's suggestion. ;-) Thanx, Paul