From: One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>
Cc: Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com>,
linux-serial@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: locking changes in tty broke low latency feature
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:17:17 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140219191717.486ac4d0@alan.etchedpixels.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5304EC33.5040502@hurleysoftware.com>
> How can the requirement be for both must-handle-in-minimum-time data
> (low_latency) and the-userspace-reader-isn't-reading-fast-enough-
> so-its-ok-to-halt-transmission ?
Because low latency is about *turn around* time. There are plenty of
protocols that can flow control, do flow control and want low latency
because they are not windowed. It's not mutually exclusive by any means.
> But first I'd like some hard data on whether or not a low latency
> mode is even necessary (at least for user-space).
The easy way to simulate the annoying as crap worst cases from dumbass
firmware downloaders and the like is to set up a link between two PCs and
time 2000+ repetitions of
send 64 bytes
wait for a Y
send 64 bytes
wait for a Y
....
and the matching far end being a box running an existing kernel or a PIC
or something doing the responses.
Historically we used to lose about 20mS per cycle which over 2000 got to
be a bit of a PITA.
Low latency goes back to the days of flip buffers, bottom halves an a
100Hz clock. There are certainly better ways to do it now if its needed.
Alan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-02-19 19:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-02-18 9:38 locking changes in tty broke low latency feature Stanislaw Gruszka
2014-02-18 9:57 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-02-18 22:12 ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-19 13:03 ` Stanislaw Gruszka
2014-02-19 16:55 ` Grant Edwards
2014-02-19 17:38 ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-19 18:12 ` Grant Edwards
2014-02-19 18:42 ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-19 19:17 ` One Thousand Gnomes [this message]
2014-02-19 20:22 ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-19 21:42 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-02-20 2:19 ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-21 15:39 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-02-21 15:58 ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-21 16:31 ` Grant Edwards
2014-02-19 23:06 ` Hal Murray
2014-02-19 23:35 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-02-20 2:55 ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-20 4:16 ` Greg KH
2014-02-20 18:16 ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-20 19:33 ` Grant Edwards
2014-02-20 22:06 ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-23 22:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-02-24 0:23 ` Peter Hurley
2014-02-24 13:23 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-02-24 15:44 ` Grant Edwards
2014-02-20 21:55 ` Hal Murray
2014-02-20 22:14 ` Grant Edwards
2014-02-21 15:43 ` One Thousand Gnomes
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