From: "Brad Mouring" <bmouring@ni.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Brad Mouring <bmouring@ni.com>,
linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Clark Williams <williams@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] rtmutex: Handle when top lock owner changes
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 09:38:30 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140604143830.GA3393@linuxgetsreal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140604101612.0d47b399@gandalf.local.home>
On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 10:16:12AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 08:05:25 -0500
> "Brad Mouring" <bmouring@ni.com> wrote:
>
> > A->L2
> >
> > This is a slight variation on what I was seeing. To use the nomenclature
> > that you proposed at the start, rewinding to the point
> >
> > A->L2->B->L3->C->L4->D
> >
> > Let's assume things continue to unfold as you explain. Task is D,
> > top_waiter is C. A is scheduled out and the chain shuffles.
> >
> > A->L2->B
> > C->L4->D->'
>
> But isn't that a lock ordering problem there?
>
> If B can block on L3 owned by C, I see the following:
>
> B->L3->C->L4->D->L2->B
>
> Deadlock!
Yes, it could be. But currently no one owns L3. B is currently not
blocked. Under these circumstances, there is no deadlock. Also, I
somewhat arbitrarily picked L4, it could be Lfoo that C blocks on
since the process is
...
waiter = D->pi_blocked_on
// waiter is real_waiter D->L2
// orig_waiter still there, orig_lock still has an owner
// top_waiter was pointing to C->L4, now points to C->Lfoo
// D does have top_waiters, and, as noted above, it aliased
// to encompass a different waiter scenario
>
> In my scenario I was very careful to point out that the lock ordering
> was: L1->L2->L3->L4
>
> But you show that we can have both:
>
> L2-> ... ->L4
>
> and
>
> L4-> ... ->L2
>
> Which is a reverse of lock ordering and a possible deadlock can occur.
So the numbering/ordering of the locks is really somewhat arbitrary.
Here we *can* have L2-> ... ->L4 (if B decides to block on L2, it
could just as easily block on L8), and we absolutely have
L4-> ... ->L2. A deadlock *could* occur, but all of the traces that
I dug through, no actual deadlocks occurred.
>
> -- Steve
>
>
> >
> > So, we now have D blocking on L2 and L4 has waiters, C again. Also,
> > since the codepath to have C block on L4 again is the same as the
> > codepath from when it blocked on it in the first place, the location
> > is the same since the stack (for what we care about) is the same.
> >
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-06-04 14:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-23 14:30 [PATCH 0/1] Faux deadlock detection fixup Brad Mouring
2014-05-23 14:30 ` [PATCH 1/1] rtmutex: Handle when top lock owner changes Brad Mouring
2014-06-04 1:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-06-04 13:05 ` Brad Mouring
2014-06-04 14:16 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-06-04 14:38 ` Brad Mouring [this message]
2014-06-04 14:58 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-06-04 15:11 ` Brad Mouring
2014-06-04 15:32 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-04 15:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-06-04 18:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-04 18:12 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-06-04 20:49 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-04 19:25 ` Brad Mouring
2014-06-04 19:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-04 20:07 ` Brad Mouring
2014-06-04 20:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-04 22:22 ` [PATCH] " Brad Mouring
2014-06-04 23:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-06 3:19 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Steven Rostedt
2014-06-06 5:40 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-06 5:44 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-06-06 8:53 ` Steven Rostedt
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