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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Clark Williams <williams@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [GIT RFC PULL rcu/urgent] Prevent Kconfig from asking pointless questions
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 14:21:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150420142149.3ac58a2c@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150420180904.GA19229@gmail.com>

On Mon, 20 Apr 2015 20:09:04 +0200
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> wrote:


> So the disadvantage is that if a boot default is wrong, we'll hear 
> about it eventually and can fix/improve it.
> 
> If a sysctl knob is wrong, people will just 'tune' it and forget to 
> propagate it to the kernel proper (why should they).

My fear is that there is no one true value. One person complains about
it, we change it, then someone else complains about the new value. That
would be even worse.

> 
> Which is fine for something like ftrace and other ad-hoc 
> instrumentation that is generally very fine tuned to a given bug or 
> given piece of hardware, but for something like the RCU implementation 
> of the kernel - even if it's just a RT side thought of it - I'm not so 
> sure about it.

I would argue than every case is different, and only the sysadmin would
know the right value. Thus, just set it to one, and if that's not good
enough, then the sysadmins can change it to their needs.

-- Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-20 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20150416183812.GA5571@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
     [not found] ` <20150418130340.GA26931@gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <20150418133444.GD23685@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
     [not found]     ` <20150418143238.GA2337@gmail.com>
2015-04-19  2:05       ` [GIT RFC PULL rcu/urgent] Prevent Kconfig from asking pointless questions Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-20 16:35         ` Clark Williams
2015-04-20 17:09           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-20 17:59             ` Clark Williams
2015-04-20 18:20               ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2015-04-20 18:01             ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-20 18:09               ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-20 18:21                 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2015-04-20 18:28                   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-20 18:34                     ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-21  6:42                       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-04-21 13:18                         ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-21  3:37                   ` Mike Galbraith
2015-04-20 20:40             ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-20 21:15               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-20 21:50                 ` Clark Williams
2015-04-21  1:22                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-21 13:12                     ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-21 15:01                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-04-21 15:50                         ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-21 15:54                           ` Paul E. McKenney

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