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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Gary Robertson <gary.robertson@linaro.org>
Cc: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-rt-users <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RT][RFC] irq_work: Have non HARD_IRQ irq work just run from ticks
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 12:30:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150623123057.0bf8fc58@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAF7YWnxZ5CA=zsBiZRrL5ZjOuXeoV-EkfH1vrLXcw=NCFEv9Mw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:20:38 -0500
Gary Robertson <gary.robertson@linaro.org> wrote:

> I am concerned about interactions with the evolving 'full tickless' operations.

I'm concerned about more than just full tickless. But like you, I don't
currently have any concrete examples to show there's a possible issue.

> 
> While I have no concrete use cases to show, I can conceive that
> an I/O data processing application running on an isolated core
> operating in 'full tickless' mode might benefit from allowing interrupts
> on that same core so long as they service hardware involved with
> the data flow being processed by the application.
> Let's further assume that for hardware-related reasons we still want
> to run the irq work from a softirq context rather than a hardirq context.
> 
> In such circumstances we obviously don't want the irq work done from a
> timer tick -
> so adding another irq work queue independent of the lazy flag and
> unconditionally raising a softirq on the first addition to that queue
> would seem to be the most flexible and compatible answer.
> Irq work queued with the lazy bit set could be deferred until the next
> tick interrupt
> for efficiency and compatibility, and 'normal' irq work
> would no longer be potentially stalled
> by being enqueued with 'lazy' work.

I'd be sleeping better at night with a third queue. I'll write up a
patch and post that as an RFC as well. This will at a minimum keep with
the paradigm of mainline linux.

-- Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-23 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-22 19:09 [PATCH][RT][RFC] irq_work: Have non HARD_IRQ irq work just run from ticks Steven Rostedt
2015-06-23 14:12 ` Jan Kiszka
2015-06-23 16:20   ` Gary Robertson
2015-06-23 16:30     ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2015-06-23 18:45       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2015-06-23 19:09         ` Steven Rostedt

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